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stop bitching, start a revolution

___Sesto_Sento
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 12:39:02
to those who haven't given up hope yet.
right now, we can't even dance in parties cuz the asses in blue think they know what's good for us. if you have any ideas what we can do about it, here's a person who'd like to hear them.
___TrancEisT
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 12:41:53
well... if i had transportation and a shit load of money it would be a start!

but Erhm... have an unorginized party every fucking weekened
or DAY even!

people who don't work the day after can come and dance their asses off!
all we need is a phone-link between all of us and a random location eatchday :)
the police will get sick of stopping the flooding... water will always penetrate.

let's stop bitching and when parties close down not scatter to every corner of the country... let's trade phone numbers and drive off to another place... all day long!

once i will have my license!!! :D :D :D :D
___Sesto_Sento
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 13:14:15
some serious and THINKING human beings here,maybe?

o.k,so you dont have a car,so what?!
do you have to say it all the time?
and do you have to post all your REALLY tragic bullshit you probably call jokes when a simple and serious question is asked?

i don't get that.
are people in the forum here for the music and the fun or for dumb games?
___Nomad
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 14:07:25
How can you beat the system ?
i don't have any ideas, don't get me wrong i'm not giving up , i just can't think of anything .
untill the police won't change their policy and find someone else to persecute (like actual criminals for example-a crazy thought i know), parties will be shut down, i guess somehow we made it to their priority list .
this year we were marked from the git go, if anyone remembers before the summer season started they stated it very clearly .
and unfortunately they keep their promise .

so in words of the Clash :
i fought the law (and the law won) .
i hope it won't win again .


___TrancEisT
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 16:39:47
sesto: what exactly did u do to strt a revolution? critize other people?
___MentalProjection
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 17:30:37
Hey all cops arent bad, for one example my beloved cop DAD. He thinks it kinnda cool with trance and the dancing and partying as long as i keep away from the drugs.... So my point is, all cops arent trancehaters.... Its there job to stop illegal parties but i bet ya that there are a lot of cops out there who hates that part of the job because they listen to tha music themselfs.... I dont like that part of there job either, but i just feel that they are getting accused as bad people not as bad (doing their job) cops..

PEACE!

M.P
___jacky
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 18:26:43
a- it's fun to bitch...
b- for the issue- every revolution starts with education and awareness.
In our world awareness is something usually made to the public by the media-books newspapers, internet, radio and tv.
i once brought an idea to bring our "scene" problems to uvda tv program. but they are off the air.
the problem is i think that inside our tribe some of us if not all really like the fact that's it's a small community and when education and awereness are being developed that means-bigger scene, more plastic people that are in it for the posa... the idealistic side behind trance is going down and each here probably can add a few more downs for the scene to get bigger.
but that's how groups in society get more power, by taking the small quality group and opening people's mind for the new idea.

Education in this case is combined with awereness cause we cant come with our music to the ministry of education.. ;-)
what we have left is the media.
Now we can think of how to use the media for us..
music articles are nice way to insert trance as a common normal thing ( see jason writing..)
but i think we need to find out about contacts in the media willing to publish more fuck - up's of the police or the goverment sending the police..
if no one has those connections or we'll offer the storie and no one will want to buy it..
than demonstration!
but reall one, not a party well organised with asher asking us to buy mineral water...
but just like the unemployed or any other group of people feeling they are not geting their rights.. ( fight for the right! )
if you want, take a speaker or 2..
but show them we have power, we are not drug dealers, we are not bad people we are nice mostly beutiful part of our society that prefer's to dance in nature and not in plastic boxes!
we are music creators, dj's, served in the army
bla bla...
making a revolution meening making something normal.
and for that we have to fight!  that's why i am against that soldier.. heck even here in the forum people said he was on drugs!!!!
well enough blabing let's go up to jerusalem and fight!
p.s
ron i am commited to give you a ride ;-)
suggested music for this reply is bob marley.. :-)
bom
___Banzi
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 19:30:26
Listen Jacky, sorry to burst your dreamy bubble but the media would much rather make another "trance=drugs" article than to seek for its true meaning.. the media usually gives ppl what they wanna hear, and they don't wanna hear that those drug-users monotic-music-listeners have an opinion of their own..
now to the cops part.. mental my friend, here in israel most cops are real ass-holes, they only follow the rules without having any self-judgement of their own (unless of course they get smt out of it), they enjoy showing their power to the "little ppl", bottom line- shit heads. another thing- the cops here in israel are so stupid that there isn't even a salary raise to a cop with a second degree (toar sheni), u know why? cuz there is no cop with such a degree... and this is not a joke..
___jacky
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 21:42:06
dear ben, in a dream bubble one doesnt believe in demonstrations agains the power system..
if the fucking media doesnt come to you, you need to make them come to you, if you go and demonstrate before the prime minister house in jerusalem they will come and listen to what you have to say! .( too bad a all you understood from my reply is what you wrote.. )
and by the way, the thread was about non-bitchin
remeber? critisize? that's way to easy, although even than you didnt get to the point and offer alternatives.
didnt either see my alternatives..
you didnt understand what i said or didnt want to understand.
So all you had had to say is how cops are fucked..
and how media likes us narcotics..
psh....
man you have words and attention and understanding abbilities one should admire...
benny - hope you get out of your pesimistic times brother.. dream lands makes changes! pesimistics
just sit and wait for brave dreamers to do the impossible!
open
your
mind
this
is
trance !
some times in a bubble .
bom
___Banzi
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 21:47:48
i'm not pesimist and i'm not bitching my friend.. :) i've been in this scene for long enough to know what is possible and what isn't, i did understand what u said but doing such a thing will only attract more un-needed attention (imho at-least). i ask u not to say such things about my attention and understanding abilities... and even if i misunderstood you it's not a reason to talk the way you just did, it's not a competition so i won't tell u what i tried to do for the scene or didn't try, i wish u all the luck in the world my friend and offer my help at any time.
(but i still think u are wrong and too idealist.. )
___pacman7331
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 22:07:34
saying starting a revolution only shows how fucking stupid you are. You start a "revolution" and try to overthrow the government because they breakup your rave parties... and you loose. You make an enemey of the government and the rest of the country. And then their anti-rave campaign gets more support than ever.

If you can't organize your party well enough to make it LEGAL. What you probably want to do, (but i'm sure you won't) is take legal action, Get as many Smart people as you can and get allot of money and convince your representive and local government that your little rave parties should not be broken up. Then they may write a bill that proctects your parties. And if it passes you will get to party more.

But just shut the hell up about the Revolution crap. That makes you sound like a 3rd grader.

Unless you want to raise your own milita and teach them how they should go and die for the rave party cause.

Reason Ron was jokeing around is because your post sounds so damn ridiculous that he probably thought it WAS a joke.
___Sesto_Sento
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 23:38:49
i realize you cant do nothing when the people you turn to for help are plastic and desperate.
you cant do nothing if you give up too soon.

Ron, someone in this forum has to critisize you.
you're such a kid, i cant believe it.
and if you really need a ride, i'll pick you up...

just dont diss me when i ask a serious question, O.K???

___TrancEisT
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 23:50:18
who the fuck was kidding!??!?!
holy shit....

if that's the way u take things, then fuck it.
anyway: thanks for the ride but where the fuck are u when the parties are on?
i have already taken friends form these forums to parties before and i will do it again once i will be able too!

you are all digital ink (fucking good phrase, saw it earlier today on the forum)

The solution to this problem is: start pluring and not fighting.
___Sesto_Sento
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Posted : Sep 1, 2001 23:59:11
wasn't that dojo's phrase?
and peace, Ron, if you see a girl on traktoron in your hood , kmow it's me!

:)
___gRaViTy_WaVeD
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Posted : Sep 2, 2001 02:05:02
weee! i found a way to access the forum without it fucking up! yay!

anyway folks lets stick to the topic? the fine man in kahol kill illegal parties, and that sucks, what can we do about it...
...
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no idea :)
this is why they call it illegal parties :) mahtarti, underground...
best is to stay low for a while, until they decide to pick on something better then trance parties, and then rise back to the surface :)

either that, or make the parties legal.. that ofcourse, make it cost more, and the entry fee to cost more too... but whatcha gona do?
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