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Equilizyme
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Posted : Jan 14, 2012 23:44
try waves r-bass, should help some. Set to root freq of your bassline, bring the fader all the way down to -24 or so. Subtle, but helps with low end power.           --
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dj chichke
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Posted : Jan 15, 2012 02:19
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On 2012-01-14 23:40, Chemica wrote:
In the protoculture tutorial he did say that only lately hes been doing this bass technique and u can hear it on his newest release. I dont think he was doing this on "refractions" which is the bass i really want to know about. Can anyone help me with tips on how u get such power in the low freq range of "silicon sunrise"??

the bassline of protocultre is very similar to club trance bassline. you can hear the high layer obviously

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supergroover
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Posted : Jan 15, 2012 12:23
Any one know of a tutorial about spilling channels in cubase?           soundcloud.com/supergroover
mblane
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Posted : Jan 15, 2012 21:44
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On 2012-01-15 12:23, supergroover wrote:
Any one know of a tutorial about spilling channels in cubase?




MDMA's tutorial videos have a section on doing this in cubase although its pretty much the same in any other DAW. I think he goes through the process in one of the 'mixing' videos.           http://soundcloud.com/mattlane
Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 16, 2012 02:00
Make 2 "effect channels" LOW & MID (xample)

then add HP EQ on MID channel & LP on LOW channel


parameters on pictures is an example           http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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Chemica

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Posted : Jan 16, 2012 14:37
Thanks for the help . On waves rbass. There are two faders. One is intensity and the other is gain. When u say to turn fader down to -24 r u talking about intensity or gain?? Cos if its the gain fader u hardly have any signal. I'm not very familiar with rbass. Also at the top of the left fader there is an 'in' and 'out' option. What should this be on ??

Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 16, 2012 16:00
Equilizyme wrote about INTENSITY           http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jan 16, 2012 17:36
Been trying the separation thing and it really gives a nice drive to the bassline, we tend to spend too much time tweaking the bass because we trying to make a single layer to do all the work, and with 2 layers it's easier, it needs practice but it's very cool.
i'll post a sample later
PoM
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Posted : Jan 16, 2012 17:50
spliting chanel i find it good for removing some mud,i like to have low and mids and not much low mids in some bass depending mood of the day... it can let room for leads to be phater there ,you can archieve similar result with multi band comps .
the fun is parallel processing, distorting a small part of the bass, like 1K to 4K just as a example and blend it back a little with the original for more electric sound
Alien Bug
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Posted : Jan 16, 2012 18:36
yea, if you make room @200-400hz on bass, then you can leave leads untouched on this freqs. result is mashingly brilliant: big phatt "analog" leads.
many people make this mistake that cuts leads much below 500Hz, and then doesnt know why lead is powerless

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Equilizyme
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Posted : Jan 17, 2012 00:32
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On 2012-01-16 14:37, Chemica wrote:
Thanks for the help . On waves rbass. There are two faders. One is intensity and the other is gain. When u say to turn fader down to -24 r u talking about intensity or gain?? Cos if its the gain fader u hardly have any signal. I'm not very familiar with rbass. Also at the top of the left fader there is an 'in' and 'out' option. What should this be on ??






Sorry, I should have been more specific. Intensity as Alien Bug said           --
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killik
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Posted : Jan 17, 2012 01:17
I tried to layer a psybass and found it to be necessary to use two equilizer on the mid bass to eliminate every lowend that rumbles with the subbass. -18db single eq lowend reduction seemed too little
Chemica

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Posted : Jan 17, 2012 09:49
Hi again
Nomad is that a single bass channel that ur routing off to two seperate fx channels? I'm curious to know mor about what your doing. Especially if you're gettin the result i'm after.
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jan 17, 2012 12:20
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On 2012-01-17 09:49, Chemica wrote:
Hi again
Nomad is that a single bass channel that ur routing off to two seperate fx channels? I'm curious to know mor about what your doing. Especially if you're gettin the result i'm after.



http://forum.isratrance.com/layer-kick-with-subkick-for-a-better-sound/page2/

Read Oxydelic post, i'm routing the vst to two sends, it's a bit trial and error
And i'm going for the basslines Wizack and DH make lol
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Jan 17, 2012 14:06
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On 2012-01-17 12:20, Nomad Moon wrote:
subkick-for-a-better-sound/page2/

Read Oxydelic post, i'm routing the vst to two sends, it's a bit trial and error
And i'm going for the basslines Wizack and DH make lol



Dunno what Tommy does but I don't do any fancy processing on my basslines. Just play attention to get the ADSR settings that controls the filter, in order to get the sound right at the source, and use 3 bands of EQ, a high pass filter, a gentle dip at around 120Hz (depending on the basssynth) and another gentle dip at around 450Hz. The sidechain the bassline to drop it about 4dB at every kick trigger (although there is no bassline note on the kick notes...just to get some small pumping going on) and that is my process for all my basslines.
No Rbass.
No boosting.
No splitting the bassline, unless it is not a 16th single saw type affair, where I layer things, like this track:




Peace out.           
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