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Nathan
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 11:55
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Spiritual is something that you can't touch, can't see but you can hear and feel. It's the complete opposite of materialistic.
If you feel the music, enjoy it in the maximum way, so its spiritual. If you express your emotion by creating music - its Spiritual music.
but Spiritualism is subjective.
Music becomes materialistic when its dun only for money or promoted with sex.
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mk47
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 12:34
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spiritual ? hell yess .. the 90`s goa vibe  !! .. that was somethn else !
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jivamukti
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 18:08
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Instant spirituality:
1) Overdose of pitch modulation
2) Vocal samples of McKenna, Leary & co
3) Eastern melodies
4) Hindu terms & symbols
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Outolintu
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 18:10
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ofcourse other music than goa trance can be spiritual. and it wasn't the ganesh and shiva names or the insence that made it spiritual but the whole vibe and the energy that was unleashed through this new and exciting music. nowerdays the majority of spiritual music for me is not related to psy trance of today. it's basically anykind of music that wakens up my spirit (or soul, call it what you want), makes it fly and shine out to every living entity. that's my definition of spiritual music
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 18:18
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On 2006-09-12 18:08, jivamukti wrote:
1) Overdose of pitch modulation
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You can't never have enough of that buddy.
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Pt.
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 18:20
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I don't know. Something that grabs my soul and makes it pee on it self of fear? Adham Shaikh is pretty spiritual. He's got direct connection to the spirit world. Guess it's his drums?  In all, it's a feeling one can't explain or “label”.It just IS. Take acid  .. beh! on my self.
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 18:53
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On 2006-09-12 03:06, Krell wrote:
Certainly I dont see any old school melodic goa trance being anymore "spiritual" to me than some good deep trance.
Spirituality, marketed as a product sounds foul to me. Its something which belongs to the individual, and cannot and should not be spoon fed into them through brands. "This is spirituality, EAT IT!".
Hope this makes sense - I get it, your trying to mock this spirituality thing, or perhaps you just want to mock the branding of it
Spiritual music exists, what it is, is up to the individual to appreciate...
The spirit of our scene was born out of our own spirituality - I think that much is true.
- Krell
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That's exactly what i meant. I am not sick of spirituality, i am sick of it's branding, i am sick of people that turn it into a product and putting a logo on it, as if Goa Trance is the only thing that is spiritual. And exactly as you say i don't see how an Astral Projection's Mahadeva is more spiritual than say Extrawelt's Soopertrack. The fact that AP use a vocal sample of some Indian chant doesn't necessarily turn it into something special.
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In that case Pavel I definatly agree with you. See this thread: http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/64847/forum/1
IMO the earlier Goa trance had a naive, but real spirituality. I think the people who made it were using the symbols and music composition techniques of spiritual traditions because they honestly identified with them (although they may not have been as fully educated about them as they should have been), not as a cynical marketing scheme.
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((( MOKKSHH )))
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 19:46
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 20:04
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without reading what everybody say i will give my definition of spiritual music, also i would call it music from the soul...
its pretty simple, sit down infront of your instrument, and play without thinking, you start to feel how you and the instrument connect, you touch it with your soul, your mind and body is one... playing softer, harder as you get the invitation...
this for me is spiritual...
its about connecting with something... be it painting, you and the pencil and the colors, or be it music, you and the instrument... or clay or fabric or(food) whatever... it can be a spiritual experience.. and dont have to have anything with religion to do..
but maybe i should not use the word spiritual cause it can involve a relgious thing...
i mean soul... letting your soul guide you...
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Pt.
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Posted : Sep 12, 2006 20:08
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 Exacly Mr. NES. Right on the target. |
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Sep 13, 2006 00:45
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I think it is also possible that certain physical properties of sound might be more likely to engender spiritual experiences in the listener. I find that some percussion patterns and noises more easily lead me to feelings of bliss /spiritual connectedness than do others.
I think that the spirituality of the listener is as important as the spirituality of the maker. I have definatly felt my spirit moved by the work of atheists.
A music principal that alot of chillout music seems to be tuned in with seems to be described in Vijńăna-bhairava, a text believed to date to sometime in the 9th century earlier, from Kashmir. The quote is Dhana 18 verse 4 as translated by Paul Mueller-Ortega and Jaideva Singh c. 1991 (Im not a Yoga practicitoner, or even scholar of Sanskrit or Indology, so anybody please correct me if they think im misunderstanding or misusing this verse in any way)
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Translation (by Paul Mueller-Ortega):
If one listens with undivided attention to the sounds of stringed and other musical instruments which on account of their (uninterrupted) succession are prolonged (1), he will, at the end (2) be absorbed in the ether of consciousness (and this attain the nature of Bhairava
notes (by Jaideva Singh):
1. The resonance of musical notes lasts for a long time and being melodious it attracts the attention of the listener. Even when it stops, it still reverberates in the mind of the listener. The listener becomes greatly engrossed in it. A musical note, if properly produced, appears to arise out of eternity and finally disappear in it.
2. When the music stops, it still reverberates in memory. If the yogi does not allow his mind to wander to soemthing else, but concentrates on the echo of the music, he will be absorbed in the source of all sound, viz parAvAk and thus will aquire the nature of Bhairava.
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jivamukti
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Posted : Sep 13, 2006 21:33
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On 2006-09-12 18:08, jivamukti wrote:
1) Overdose of pitch modulation
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You can't never have enough of that buddy.
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I beg to differ.
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Pavel
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Posted : Sep 13, 2006 22:43
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On 2006-09-12 18:08, jivamukti wrote:
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You can't never have enough of that buddy.
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I beg to differ.
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I beg to Kiefer
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MॐZC4L1†0
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 01:48
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jajajajajaja lol rofl lmao, very good 1 Pavel haha
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Sep 14, 2006 12:38
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On 2006-09-11 14:33, Pavel wrote:
Ok so i saw on Psynews some goa freak opens a new label and wants to release "spiritual, melodic goa music".
Ok, so i open Cubase and some plugs. How exactly do i make a spiritial track? What do i smoke and what kind of LSD should i drink to make a spiritual track?
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