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Something new is coming from Native Instruments, let the guessing begin...
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 29, 2014 23:27:31
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 30, 2014 15:41
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wow! quite fast! |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 30, 2014 16:19
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 30, 2014 17:18
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Well, was actually hoping for a hell of a lot more here...
Since Reaktor's now on 5.9 I was hoping for a Reaktor 6 to be released with the new Komplete package and thought it could be the thing behind all this suspense: I mean, they could make connecting the modules together a whole lot easier, or at least create some special mode where you could go about it as easily as you do with something like the Nord Modular.
Still hoping they'll do it. It's very good as it is. I've taken the time to build some simple stuff in there, the interface isn't bad at all. And the user library surely has some cool stuff to mess with, along with the factory stuff that's got some good gems as well.
Massive is also on version 1.8 (from the back of my head, was so with the update for version 2 of Maschine) so it's also due to a new version and, if done right, that would also build a lot of momentum for them - since that's the thing behind some sub genres of Electronic Music these days; and possibly their best UI (at least to my mind, very easy to build patches from scratch and a joy to do so).
Kontakt is ok as it is. Perhaps a bit complicated still, there's plenty of stuff in there but it could be organised a little better. The libraries sort of make up for it. Good thing it's able to read our old sample libraries from our zombie hardware dusty machines in the basement to XD
What else? Wonder when FM8 will have decent filters on it? Absynth could definitely have a more appealing interface that made diving through it's immense features a little bit more intuitive and fun! No one ever mentions it's envelopes, as opposed to FM8 and they're just as flexible, plus there's some very unique features on that engine that I believe are still to be explored by many (including me) because it's such a nightmare to dive into it, you feel like you had to take a month off just to get to know it well - and that's not cool.
So, all in all, Komplete is still a very cool package but it's not as brilliant throughout as many say it is. There's still much room for improvement! And I, for one, was expecting them to steep up their game a little bit before releasing another version! Cheers to all! |
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woodster77
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Posted : Aug 30, 2014 19:53
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looks like another attempt at getting the Kore thing working
tbh im not inspired by the pictures of it,
and i agree. the elements of Komplete seem a bit out of date and a steep learning curve to get the best from them
but they do sound good tho,
will just have to wait and see what this keyboard has to offer. or is it another bolt on peripheral thats a BIT less hassel than your normal controller keyboard.......Maschine with keys instead
Kinda disapointed tbh
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 2, 2014 19:03
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Yeah, now it's officially announced and it does look like a regular midi keyboard controller of sorts.
I just can't believe the price! 499€ for a simple keyboard with no so much knobs going on, a more then debatable choice for mod and pitch, with the touch control - but of course I'd have to try that before judging it. All in all, tough, looks like they're asking way to much for such a simple thing and that the hype isn't justified.
On the positive side, it's good that all the plug-ins in the suite are mapped to the controller, the colours above the keyboard can be useful, the arpeggiator, scales and chords thing are nice things to.
It's just that, if you already own Komplete and a decent controller (take this with a grain of salt, there's no actual decent controller out there besides hardware synths with midi i/o XD), it really does not make much of a difference. I mean, I own a Novation SL with the automap software which maps things quite easily and allows you to record your changes to the standard template - which I do once and save and that's it! So why bother? I even prefer to have a more open product rather then a brand only thing, that probably works as good for mapping out other things from other brands as my old plastic grey Roland one does (the largest one in my arsenal so that's why I keep it).
So yeah, for a company that could strive to achieve something that would almost resemble the Nord Modular - except that it would have to be, well... Native! It just seems like they couldn't stand to be the only software company without a keyboard controller of their own, like Arturia for example, and that's it. I simply don't see how this adds anything to the table!
Some interesting stuff for Reaktor though, it seems. And that's it! Who needs more pianos for Kontakt? Not me! Cheers |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 2, 2014 19:16
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"KOMPLETE KONTROL keyboards also feature extensive MIDI control for third-party instruments with the included Controller Editor software. Adjust touch strip behavior, configure keyboard splits with Light Guide™ visual feedback, and create custom templates. When you use KOMPLETE Instruments and third-party instruments together in a session, KOMPLETE KONTROL automatically switches between MIDI mode and KOMPLETE KONTROL software when you select a track – uninterrupted workflow."
I was wrong after all. It can deliver the same kind of functionality to third party stuff as stated above. Guess it makes it worthy for those getting into it right now, to get a complete workstation with a decent fatar keyboard and nicely thought out integration with the software - specially their own, but not pre-historic the other way around.
Coming to think of it, my SL mk2 wasn't much cheaper then that and does not include arpeggiator, scales, chord memory, or anything like that - which has got it's uses of course.
But it also feels like when they've teased Monark some time ago. We're expecting something really huge, and a Moog emulator isn't a bad thing at all, just not the revolution all the hype as made it seem like... Same thing here. Most companies these days seem to rush new versions in such a way that makes it look like what former regular updates to suites and software used to be. I just don't get it how they feel they've got enough in there to make it worthy for their previous costumers of Komplete to justify another version of it.
All in all, if you're picking it today it's still a very nice deal and no one doubts that's it's a very vast and good package that instantly gives you almost anything you might need to make good music...
K, rant over |
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 3, 2014 12:04
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could be a precoursor to a DAW......???
Maschine 2.2 in Nov was mentioned
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 3, 2014 13:06
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look behind the Kontakt instrument........thats not maschine......or is it....mwhahahah!
looks like were gonna get a daw...maschiners
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 3, 2014 23:53
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would love it if they make a daw ...in the long run they could easily make the best daw for electronic music with all their stuff |
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 4, 2014 02:34
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totally agree
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 5, 2014 01:51
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pretty damn sure it's just Logic X on that picture, though...
the colour scheme and the interface, almost 100% sure that's what it is. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 5, 2014 04:07
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besides, does the world really need another DAW?
I think they might have gone a bit overboard with that for Maschine, mainly because they had to surpass the competition for pad based drum machines. And what that meant was MPC. Now, the MPC came packed with enough features that would allow you to do complete songs in there. If they were to stand a chance to steal that market, they had to play the right cards and, on this case, that meant an environment where you could focus on creativity and have a bit of just about everything, so you could forget about tech and focus on music making without having to switch to another more complete program fast.
So as it is today, it's pretty close to being that. But I think all that was done within a "workstation" frame of mind. Like it was with the MPC, except the screen would be the one you already have: the computer's! They don't even sell the software on its own, it's something to complement their hardware, to be thought out as one product.
This makes a big difference, because when you're playing the DAW game, there's other stuff at stake which they're miles away from getting close to - and of course they know that. Then, we're talking of a company whose owners are friends with those at Ableton. It's like two kids growing in the same school, sort of thing.
I still feel that Komplete is also some sort of workstation, but one that needs integration with another DAW. Their new plug-in, with a browser of all Komplete's contents, sort of points in that direction to. They're trying to say: hey, you don't really need to look elsewhere. We have everything you need right here. That's, once more, the workstation thing.
They're doing the same for sound that Adobe did for multimedia software. |
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 5, 2014 09:27
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all i wants a timeline dude...lol
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