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Shulman - Endless Rhythms of the Beatless Heart

Alias
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Posted : Dec 30, 2007 08:11
I'm really don't know what is the connection between this album and Kenny G.
For sure he is great Saxophonist, but he is not zourna or ney player. so this analogy is pointless!

Some people may be cannot connect to this album....in the other hand nobody can say this is not great musical achievement.
For example i don't like Jazz....but i cant say jazz is bad music!

I'm listening right now to "Invention"
the melodies are all over the place .Outstanding work!
this is real music....not some akai loops!


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Sputer
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 21:47
okks 3 months later, when meanwhile I exposed to new cds from younger brother and ott, I must say this album is really good one for itself..

there is no reason to compare between this Shulman cd and his last one {In Search of a Meaningful Moment} they both amazing in thier own ways...

Shulman is definitely set his place in the big chill/electronic names in my opinion..


lookin 4 next rlses..           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
...
da777


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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 04:51
grrr, all the background is really excellent, rhythms, SFX, atmos...but the leads (midi solos) hmmm it doesn't work for me.
I have the same problem with Skylon.

i don't like leads anymore?? :( too bad
The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 13:10
Shulman has always pushed boundaries and experimented with sounds and comeup with amazing stories... and for once I actually feel like he has got it right for an entire album... all his other albums I got a head ache by the end... they all sounded to electronic and to clinical... this one sounds like he and his coproducer decided just to let it all go and enjoy the music... I just get he feeling that they were in the studio having soooo much fun making this.... they were making an album more for themselves than for the fans, and it works brilliantly... I think this for me is one of the most special experimental albums ever made... oh and I kid you not, chuck track 7 on as your final track when you are dj'ing out doors at a festival on a big sound system, and not one single person will leave the place frowning or feeling sad... tested this 4 times now and big smiles all round Thankyou Shulman, this is the best album I've bough in years and years


          --- Love In Light, Dance In Darkness ---

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Yidam
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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 16:58
The first time I heard this album I got very critical as I expected a followup to the psychedelic grit of In Search Of A Meaningful Moment

... glad I didn't do anything rash because a few listens later this thing just opened wide up. It took good monitors to truly appreciate the production of this album which is by far one of the best to come out of psychedelic downtempo. Infact this album's opened my ears to the fact that to really be a versatile producer one must step out of the genre, find new ideas and then step back in again.

The best thing about is that this flowwwwws. The lack of loop over loop is something that you miss the first time but after you sink your teeth into the album you realize that it requires a live musicians ear to create such fluid motion.

This is that album you pick when you want to introduce psychedelic downtempo to the masses. and yes... this is the kind of stuff that WILL get massive airplay...its about time something like this made its way above ground.

@ monkey... the horn you heard's called the Shehnai. I think these guys decided to make it the 'sound of shulman' as its somewhere between the jazz and ethno sound. was a tad much for the album imo but heck, I'd freak to see them jam it out live.
da777


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Posted : Feb 4, 2008 18:42
you're talking about jazz sounds, but i don't feel anything that is close to a real groov, to me it stays too electronic. nice manipulations but no groov at all. i would love to hear something well produced like this one with a real improv approach.
the mouvement here comes mostly from the rhythms and all the layers constantly morphing but it stays to straight.
The atmos combinaisons are great and fade really nicely.
The leads are posed on the grid, it needs more nuances.
i'm dreaming too much maybe but i'm sure Shulman is one the artist that could create something REALLY new, but they have to leave the grid structure.
For now it's nice to hear but it's always one line morphing all the time.
The good point is that they are going in the right direction, in "odd reflections" they are trying something really cool with the beats but the tempo stays always frozen, so the impression is limited.
Do you think it could be possible to leave the structure (grid and tempo) and keep the psychedelic impression?
For now, i prefer acoustic music when i want to listen to melodic leading parts, but it's true that this album is respectable for his production, really impressive.
The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Feb 5, 2008 00:47
if you want the real improv sound listen to Suns of Arqa or The kumba Mela Experiement... both groups are really good for what they do... but I find this albums are great because it combines the elements of both eletronica and acoustic with a good studio feel... a live albums would be nice... you may well just get what you ask fro as my Twisted Records newsletter announced last night that they're realing a live album of Hallucinogen in Dub... but it'll include the crowd noises           --- Love In Light, Dance In Darkness ---

My CD's - www.discogs.com/collection?user=liquidcream
da777


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Posted : Feb 7, 2008 04:44
Sure the addition of electronic & acoustic is a need and i like the way Suns of Arqa & Kumba Mela work on that, but Shulman production level is fucking good and so i would love to hear something more free in his compositions and more experimental in his orchestration choices.
Time will tell
PlutoDelic
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 16:26
great great music, i call it Music .

ps, cant believe that one half of Shulman is "40%" of CC, very hard to believe tho'           PSYKS
Alias
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Posted : Mar 19, 2008 17:33
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On 2008-02-04 13:10, The Journey Man Project wrote:
Shulman has always pushed boundaries and experimented with sounds and comeup with amazing stories... and for once I actually feel like he has got it right for an entire album... all his other albums I got a head ache by the end... they all sounded to electronic and to clinical... this one sounds like he and his coproducer decided just to let it all go and enjoy the music... I just get he feeling that they were in the studio having soooo much fun making this.... they were making an album more for themselves than for the fans, and it works brilliantly... I think this for me is one of the most special experimental albums ever made... oh and I kid you not, chuck track 7 on as your final track when you are dj'ing out doors at a festival on a big sound system, and not one single person will leave the place frowning or feeling sad... tested this 4 times now and big smiles all round Thankyou Shulman, this is the best album I've bough in years and years





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