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Sharp supersaws, how?

Chimp in Space
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Posted : Apr 25, 2015 09:12:40
One of those how to.

Ok, I have no problem doing melodic fullon leads nor supersaw melodies. However I do want to know how some artists get the sharp detune sound in the following:

3:00 forward






5:00 forward






Typical supersaw sound Electro Sun, Indra and Faders are all using.

Peace
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woodster77
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Posted : Apr 25, 2015 19:37
a touch of bitcrusher........
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ansolas
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Posted : May 16, 2015 17:10
Any example Patch please?
By 'just' using a Bitcruscher I don't get to that sound ?           http://facebook.com/ansolas
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splikz


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Posted : May 17, 2015 02:31
those two tracks are so similar...

for compact supersaws, two ott compressors in series...
try layering 2 patches.
for more detail add one single saw, non detuned.
ansolas
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Posted : May 17, 2015 12:21
Yesterday I created this one:
Serum Preset:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75681914/SuperSaw%20Plastic%20Lead%20I.fxp

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ansolas
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Posted : May 17, 2015 12:22
ott compressor ?           http://facebook.com/ansolas
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ansolas
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Posted : May 17, 2015 12:32
Where we are at it :

Studio One Music Loop
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moki
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Posted : Apr 4, 2016 21:38
what does this studio one music loop do? where do you import this one?
loki
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Posted : Apr 19, 2016 06:40
Quote:

On 2015-05-17 02:31, splikz wrote:
those two tracks are so similar...



LOL yeah I was hoping I wasn't the only one that noticed!           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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vafl

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Posted : Apr 22, 2016 02:21
distort just before signal would becomes the square wave.
you know, dont distort it to much but again not to much like it becomes the square wave.

its tricky thing, you need to know how square wave sounds like and avoid it if you distort something that is not square wave becasue in most cases whatever you distort to the maximum becomes square wave.

add some nosie.

P.S.
Try to add distortion to square wave and listen what happens.
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 22, 2016 06:26
distortion adds harmonics, downsampling does that too, but also in the form of nasty aliasing. which can of course be put into control with EQ, high shelf would probably cut it.

other types of distortion adds different kinds of harmonics - and of course that also has an impact on the waveform. it doesn't necessarily produce a square wave out of anything you through at it, though. there's symmetric and asymmetric distortion, there's soft and hard clip, there's analogue style overdrive, there's many many things.

clipping a drum bus (akin to digital hard clipping) would in fact square off the transients which get clipped and produce a more hollow sound while also destroying, flattening out the transients - which, btw, are just about one of the things that matters most for drums and anything really that needs some impact.

that's why, if you allow me, that I find it a bit odd that someone would suggest doing the nastiest thing to drums and advise against using plenty of distortion for leads.

then your writing style and the fact you've answered a lot of threads in a row and you did it with a style that rings a bell or two. you know, just saying.
vafl

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Posted : Apr 24, 2016 23:04
you dont need to distort whole kick.

if you distort its fundamental ofcourse it will become nasty.

but you can for example push only attack into clipping, for example with the high shelf at around 300Hz and leave everything below intact where fundamental is and it wont eat any headroom wich you need to be loud.

frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 25, 2016 17:23
If you're interested in the "hard clip" sound, why not just use some plug-in which has the option?

That way you can indeed get that sound without ruining the headroom of your mix while doing so. And not just that, all the plug-ins in your chain behave differently depending on the levels you feed into them.
vafl

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Posted : Apr 25, 2016 20:08
good point.
software clippers are a little quiter if you compare them with clipping the DAW master.
low end is softer and hi end also if you go with software clipping wich contributes to softer final mix/master wich is not the goal.
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 25, 2016 21:38
Actually no.

Hard Clip is not the same as Soft Clip. There's both.

Hard Clip will sound just as horrible as clipping your master's output on your DAW. And you can get that nasty sound without screwing up all the headroom in your mix, if you so desire it.

Soft Clipping isn't short for software, it's just - go figure - the opposite of hard. In case of persistent doubts on this, there's a book called a dictionary and I truly recommend it. Ta DA.

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