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Psycosmo
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Posted : Apr 14, 2005 19:42
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When a lot of people say "cheezy", I wonder if they really mean "cliche". Most melodies and samples that I find cheesy I find so because they sound so much alike that they almost parody their own style. Some synth riffs sound like a joke because they sound like what Satuday Night Live would make if they wanted to spoof psytrance.
For me the king of cheesy is the 1200 mics Ayahuasca track where in the beginning they're like "Deep in the Amazon Jungle the Ancient Inca....."
Are you serious?
The Inca lived in the Andes, not the Amazon, there is a big difference and the sample just makes it sound like trance people are abunch of hippie ignoramuses who are like
"cool dude those indians, they like, did mad drugs man, those indians where cool, they were, like, all hallucinating on Peyote and talking to the spirits, Man!"
Anyway thats my rant. Things that lower the intellecual tone of trance music are cheesy. |
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 00:21
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cliche doesn't have to be cheesy or melodic. A lot of dark glitchy music is cliche as well.
not all morning music is cheesy.
not all melodic music is cheesy.
not all cheesy music is melodic, though a lot of it is. .
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 00:30
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Any track does not have a remotely psychedelic element to it is 'Cheesy'.
Just havin Swooshes + swishes + break down+ build up Does NOT equal a psychedelic track.
The least cheesy producers are those that make 'Ambient/chilled out psychedelic music.
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 03:09
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On 2005-04-15 00:30, *Karma Cola* wrote:
Any track does not have a remotely psychedelic element to it is 'Cheesy'.
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oh??
depends on the style, I think.
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DJ Pelon(Inpsyde Media)
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 03:47
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On 2005-04-14 19:42, Psycosmo wrote:
"Some synth riffs sound like a joke because they sound like what Satuday Night Live would make if they wanted to spoof psytrance..."
For me the king of cheesy is the 1200 mics Ayahuasca track where in the beginning they're like "Deep in the Amazon Jungle the Ancient Inca....."
Are you serious?
The Inca lived in the Andes, not the Amazon, there is a big difference and the sample just makes it sound like trance people are abunch of hippie ignoramuses who are like
"cool dude those indians, they like, did mad drugs man, those indians where cool, they were, like, all hallucinating on Peyote and talking to the spirits, Man!"
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LoL....!!
funny shit man...
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EYB
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 05:50
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On 2005-04-14 19:42, Psycosmo wrote:
When a lot of people say "cheezy", I wonder if they really mean "cliche". Most melodies and samples that I find cheesy I find so because they sound so much alike that they almost parody their own style. Some synth riffs sound like a joke because they sound like what Satuday Night Live would make if they wanted to spoof psytrance.
For me the king of cheesy is the 1200 mics Ayahuasca track where in the beginning they're like "Deep in the Amazon Jungle the Ancient Inca....."
Are you serious?
The Inca lived in the Andes, not the Amazon, there is a big difference and the sample just makes it sound like trance people are abunch of hippie ignoramuses who are like
"cool dude those indians, they like, did mad drugs man, those indians where cool, they were, like, all hallucinating on Peyote and talking to the spirits, Man!"
Anyway thats my rant. Things that lower the intellecual tone of trance music are cheesy.
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Yes i agrre, a really good cool track 
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 06:20
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On 2005-04-15 05:50, EYB wrote:
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On 2005-04-14 19:42, Psycosmo wrote:
When a lot of people say "cheezy", I wonder if they really mean "cliche". Most melodies and samples that I find cheesy I find so because they sound so much alike that they almost parody their own style. Some synth riffs sound like a joke because they sound like what Satuday Night Live would make if they wanted to spoof psytrance.
For me the king of cheesy is the 1200 mics Ayahuasca track where in the beginning they're like "Deep in the Amazon Jungle the Ancient Inca....."
Are you serious?
The Inca lived in the Andes, not the Amazon, there is a big difference and the sample just makes it sound like trance people are abunch of hippie ignoramuses who are like
"cool dude those indians, they like, did mad drugs man, those indians where cool, they were, like, all hallucinating on Peyote and talking to the spirits, Man!"
Anyway thats my rant. Things that lower the intellecual tone of trance music are cheesy.
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Yes i agrre, a really good cool track
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 11:05
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On 2005-04-15 00:30, *Karma Cola* wrote
The least cheesy producers are those that make 'Ambient/chilled out psychedelic music.
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Hmmmm,
still there are ambiet albums which i consider cheesy.
And even though some ambient albums are good there would still some tracks which i define as cheesy!
The defintion of cheesy in my opinion is when producers make sounds and melodies to the pleasure of the simple minds!
and to attract a large amount of crowd and fans.
Meaning that most of the population in the world have simple minds and that would be being commercial at that stage!
Take example from Infected mushroom,
before they used to produce what they liked and not what the majority of the crowd liked.
Nowadays they are making commercial music to attract most of the simple minds......
I'm the supervisor,cities of the future bla bla bla....
That's pure gorgonzola mate!
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Kemic-Al
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 15:15
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He he he somebody Open a cheeze Paler
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 16:52
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On 2005-04-15 11:05, Neville Bone wrote:
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On 2005-04-15 00:30, *Karma Cola* wrote
The least cheesy producers are those that make 'Ambient/chilled out psychedelic music.
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Hmmmm,
still there are ambiet albums which i consider cheesy.
And even though some ambient albums are good there would still some tracks which i define as cheesy!
The defintion of cheesy in my opinion is when producers make sounds and melodies to the pleasure of the simple minds!
and to attract a large amount of crowd and fans.
Meaning that most of the population in the world have simple minds and that would be being commercial at that stage!
Take example from Infected mushroom,
before they used to produce what they liked and not what the majority of the crowd liked.
Nowadays they are making commercial music to attract most of the simple minds......
I'm the supervisor,cities of the future bla bla bla....
That's pure gorgonzola mate!
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Sill tak any full on album today and compare that to a HUVA Network or Aes Dana cd and u can immediately see the difference. On the contrary the chilled producers are the acknowledged crowd pleasers.
The Proggy stuff is gettin better and better nowadays too.
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 17:25
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On 2005-04-15 16:52, *Karma Cola* wrote:
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On 2005-04-15 11:05, Neville Bone wrote:
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On 2005-04-15 00:30, *Karma Cola* wrote
The least cheesy producers are those that make 'Ambient/chilled out psychedelic music.
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Hmmmm,
still there are ambiet albums which i consider cheesy.
And even though some ambient albums are good there would still some tracks which i define as cheesy!
The defintion of cheesy in my opinion is when producers make sounds and melodies to the pleasure of the simple minds!
and to attract a large amount of crowd and fans.
Meaning that most of the population in the world have simple minds and that would be being commercial at that stage!
Take example from Infected mushroom,
before they used to produce what they liked and not what the majority of the crowd liked.
Nowadays they are making commercial music to attract most of the simple minds......
I'm the supervisor,cities of the future bla bla bla....
That's pure gorgonzola mate!
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Sill tak any full on album today and compare that to a HUVA Network or Aes Dana cd and u can immediately see the difference.
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Fricken right Karma Cola,
You just mentioned 2 of my favourite artists world wide!
Thats what I call a non dairy product!
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zatitude
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 20:14
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Cheesy is so many different things to different people.
Sometimes I find when the bass line shifts up or down a key a bit 'cheesy'. This happens in the best of tracks but the most reknown artists who I would never dare to call cheesy. It's just a personal thing, perhaps they could have made it a semi-tone and I would be less irritated.
ie Astrix Sex Style 5:15
Generally for me though 'cheese' refers to music that is really made to be popular: pop music. Mainstream dance music is full of cheesy compilations, here today, gone tomorrow.
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Apr 15, 2005 20:39
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On 2005-04-15 20:14, zatitude wrote:
Cheesy is so many different things to different people.
Sometimes I find when the bass line shifts up or down a key a bit 'cheesy'. This happens in the best of tracks but the most reknown artists who I would never dare to call cheesy. It's just a personal thing, perhaps they could have made it a semi-tone and I would be less irritated.
ie Astrix Sex Style 5:15
Generally for me though 'cheese' refers to music that is really made to be popular: pop music. Mainstream dance music is full of cheesy compilations, here today, gone tomorrow.
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Depends on ur tastes at the end of the day. ~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~ |
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Neville Bone
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Posted : Apr 16, 2005 11:10
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On 2005-04-15 20:14, zatitude wrote:
Cheesy is so many different things to different people.
Sometimes I find when the bass line shifts up or down a key a bit 'cheesy'. This happens in the best of tracks but the most reknown artists who I would never dare to call cheesy. It's just a personal thing, perhaps they could have made it a semi-tone and I would be less irritated.
ie Astrix Sex Style 5:15
Generally for me though 'cheese' refers to music that is really made to be popular: pop music. Mainstream dance music is full of cheesy compilations, here today, gone tomorrow.
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That's right,
sometimes the problem would be just in one note but still the question is:
"Didn't the artist realize that that particular note is making his track sound gorgonzola or he did notice it but does not give a damn or did he do it on purpose?"
Mind you all,
have a look on psyshop and you'll see that 99% of thema are doing it on purpose so to attract glow stick kids!
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tortas
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 22:52
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On 2005-04-15 00:30, *Karma Cola* wrote
The least cheesy producers are those that make 'Ambient/chilled out psychedelic music.
Hmmmm,
still there are ambiet albums which i consider cheesy.
And even though some ambient albums are good there would still some tracks which i define as cheesy!
The defintion of cheesy in my opinion is when producers make sounds and melodies to the pleasure of the simple minds!
and to attract a large amount of crowd and fans.
Meaning that most of the population in the world have simple minds and that would be being commercial at that stage!
Take example from Infected mushroom,
before they used to produce what they liked and not what the majority of the crowd liked.
Nowadays they are making commercial music to attract most of the simple minds......
I'm the supervisor,cities of the future bla bla bla....
That's pure gorgonzola mate!
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Well, how can you tell if Infected is doing that kind of music to atract more fans or because they like it like that.....
Even not liking what they are doing wright now i respect them and i m shure they are not that desperate for money to do something they dont like.....
just because you dont like it, and you come here saying trance is gettin cheesy, and gms and infected just do theyr sound because of the money doesnt make you or anyone the master of the truth
find out what you like and leave the rest alone...
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Sill tak any full on album today and compare that to a HUVA Network or Aes Dana cd and u can immediately see the difference.
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Fricken right Karma Cola,
You just mentioned 2 of my favourite artists world wide!
Thats what I call a non dairy product!
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about those two artist i must say i never liked them mutch , i still prefer ishq shulman abakus or many others anyday and you dont see me pissing on theyr work
Many people here write respect on theyr post but many more don t know what it means
dont post your opinions as if they where absolut truth....
jus my thoughts
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