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reminder about new official psytrance regulations

shamanizer


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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 13:03
I'm soooooooooooooo tired of all scene experts with weird categorations of music genres, I feel like I would be lost in concept jungle with new experts popping up constantly with weird genre names trying to be THE true psychedelic music expert. "Hey man, u're listening to fullon, its not psychedelic, or maybe its progressive, or neofullon, or goa, or ultraneoclipclapfullon with semiprogressive influence or whatever the fuck it is then...
Jesus, why not to shut up and listen instead of trying to create new more and more complex categorations of electronic music. Try once to do what I do, I dont give rats ass about genre names, i just listen to MUSIC and if its good I'm happy, if its not I'm NOT unhappy, I just dont listen to it. Or is it just too simple and straightforward approach for all scene experts?
Barius
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 14:48
Quote:

On 2006-04-22 10:39, TrippyJohnny wrote:

It is fast MTV pop music done by artists that seem to cherish fame and fortune more than the actual music itself.




Hey. You are living in your own world. Have you watched MTV lately? Who are you to tell people who makes cheesy fullon (or whatever) that they don´t do it for the sake of music, but for the sake of fame and fortune? Really insolent.

And as dtmoney says, when did psytrance become a company with a CEO that can "succesfully petition" to remove a "subgenre" from the "scene"??

This is music we are talking about here! It doesn´t work that way.
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 15:33
What a very stupid topic....

Some people should really stay in bed some days....I´m sad for those people who´s lives are so boring that they come up with such threads...

And TrippyJonny, you must let me know what MTV you´ve been watching, I must get that!

Whats up with this people?? Do you think you show to know psy better than others by categorizing stuff like this? No...really...you just show you´ve got nothing better to do with your time...perhabs if you tried to do some music yourselves, besides criticizing others work, would be a better idea...

Sorry for the harsh post but this kind of threads are just plain sad and stupid....

boomz
traveller
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 15:53
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On 2006-04-22 15:33, FluoSamsara (Oxygen) wrote:
What a very stupid topic....

Some people should really stay in bed some days....I´m sad for those people who´s lives are so boring that they come up with such threads...

And TrippyJonny, you must let me know what MTV you´ve been watching, I must get that!

Whats up with this people?? Do you think you show to know psy better than others by categorizing stuff like this? No...really...you just show you´ve got nothing better to do with your time...perhabs if you tried to do some music yourselves, besides criticizing others work, would be a better idea...

Sorry for the harsh post but this kind of threads are just plain sad and stupid....

boomz



We are scene experts and that's it. You can get your refund at the door as well.           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 16:23
lol
Ok...you´ve convinced me traveler hehhe

Sorry for my ignorance.... lol

boomz
FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 16:25
btw... What door are you talking about?!?! Do I need to fill any specific form to deliver there in order to get my refund?!?!

Cause I really don´t want to go all my way there to hear a "sorry, you need to fill Annex B 38 form to apply for your refund" !! I´m sick of all that burocracy!!

boomz
Sarcasm
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 16:55
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On 2006-04-22 16:25, FluoSamsara (Oxygen) wrote:
btw... What door are you talking about?!?! Do I need to fill any specific form to deliver there in order to get my refund?!?!

Cause I really don´t want to go all my way there to hear a "sorry, you need to fill Annex B 38 form to apply for your refund" !! I´m sick of all that burocracy!!

boomz



its quite a bloody rush there...

they are offering 1$ or the latest IM v/s Skazi cds as a refund...

almost all i knew took the $           So drunk i can brarely spell.
Barius
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 19:59
Can everyone please continue to bash this topic? I refuse to bow down to the PCP (Psytrance Community Party)....

Dr.Fuggs. There are a couple of things I am yet to understand, so please enlighten me:

What do you mean when you say that the psytrance community has SUCCESFULLY petitioned to remove etc etc? Has it been done already?

Is it written in the Almighty Book Of Psychedelic Trance Regulations?

Who is the president of the PCP? Simon Posford? Has he agreed on this new "law"?

Where can I find the regulations?

Are you joking with us, or are actually serious?


I think I am getting physically sick...
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 20:19
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kArO
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 21:01
Colin you are funny What's all this about a refund?? I didn't pay! I just come to trance and play. Psyfreaks, play nice You will hear these arguements exactly about every type of music. Just replace the genres/ subgenres/ anitgenres/ retrogenres/ neogenres/ dark, light, rainbow bright genres (!!!!!) names. I found myself having a converstaion about *gasp* industrial but this chick was more interested with sorting musical laundry (that's ebm, that's this, that's that...) than discussing music. Well, maybe she thought we were discussing categorizing things. Boring... for me atleast because I'm not an expert.
Pavel
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Posted : Apr 22, 2006 21:16
Some more victims of Sandus Vaginus here.
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DigitalDancer


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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 03:17
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On 2006-04-22 03:21, Barius wrote:
The more i think of this topic, the more absurd it seems.

What is fullon anyway? The way I see it, psytrance consists of two MAIN genres: Fullon and Progressive. In between these there are dozens of subgenres and endless variations and combinations.

The diversity in the psytrance community is what keeps it alive. Music change, scenes change, people change, psytrance change.

Accept it!



100% Agree!!!

Psychedelic Fullon Trance!!!

Barius
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 03:58
Thank you Digital Dancer

Oh, by the way. When I was talking about the main genres, it was just meant as explaining how I see things. Doesn´t mean it´s how it really is, cause it´s all just opinions anyway And of course Goa-trance is also what I regard as psytrance.

But I don´t really care about the genres and what they are called...ehm...
Bender B. Rodriguez
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 04:06
Full on rulz!

I like copy/paste music! The cheesier it get`s the better! Original music is so not interesting! Progressive is shity because it`s too slow, and doesn`t have guitars!

I support the above stated, I`m loving every minute spreading the new wave of "not the real deal" psytrance, ruining it for you and pissing you off!















Krell
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 05:41
Quote:

On 2006-04-22 13:03, shamanizer wrote:
I'm soooooooooooooo tired of all scene experts with weird categorations of music genres, I feel like I would be lost in concept jungle with new experts popping up constantly with weird genre names trying to be THE true psychedelic music expert. "Hey man, u're listening to fullon, its not psychedelic, or maybe its progressive, or neofullon, or goa, or ultraneoclipclapfullon with semiprogressive influence or whatever the fuck it is then...
Jesus, why not to shut up and listen instead of trying to create new more and more complex categorations of electronic music. Try once to do what I do, I dont give rats ass about genre names, i just listen to MUSIC and if its good I'm happy, if its not I'm NOT unhappy, I just dont listen to it. Or is it just too simple and straightforward approach for all scene experts?




Even though I am known to be quite outspoken when it comes to babbling about musical genres and what is what I totally agree with what you write.

This topic is nothing but the product of a person who doesnt like full on and deems it "not worthy psychedelic music" on the basis of his own musical preference (which is most likely either Progressive Psy, Dark Psy or Suomi style).

People who will continually try to brand "psychedelic trance" will always fail - These kinds of messiah wannabees tend to try and create definitions of what is psychedelic, when the quintessence of the psychedelic experience lies in going beyond restrictions imposed by definitions.

Nothing that has been previously experienced is psychedelic.

(sorry about the caps but)

IF YOU ARE ON A QUEST FOR THE WHOLY GRALE OF PSYCHEDELIC EXPERIENCES YOU WILL NOT FIND IT IN THE GOA/PSYCHEDELIC CULTURE; since - This culture is really not truely psychedelic, it just pretends...

And Im fine with pretending

I will go check out my cats breath also now.

Best Wishes

Krell           Label DJ>
www.jesterrecords.ca
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