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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 01:16
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On 2009-03-30 21:22, x-rayz wrote:
Animals do nothing more than fill out karma they deserve, and that goes by the process of evolution. Gradually from life to life they develop to the human form of life. When in human form they have option to go again in the animal world if they have animal desires and are doing everything u mentioned in your post or to keep it simple being worst animal there is. But if some of those millions of people are lucky enough in their search and stumble upon a saintly person they have the opportunity to go the spiritual plane and leave this material form of life forever.
I dont drool over some chica when I see her fine looking legs cause I can see that shes so ignorant and tries to get my attention to her lower parts of the body. However Im also the worst animal cause I cant attain love for god, in spite of the fact that I have all the answers I could possibly ask questions to.. Some saintly persons have the ability to talk with animals.. Simply cause of the fact that god is in each and every one of us, animal or human, supersoul is in everyones heart and cause of it we can all make contact between ourselves.. In fact persons which realized god can even free the soul of animal and take it to the spiritual realm. So again to conclude, we are all animals if we dont love god or at least search for him..
I was writing this in a hurry so maybe it isnt unerstandable so much.. I have some few thoughts to add related to human vs animal differences..
One more less important difference between humans and animals is that humans can predict the future, while animals cant. Take for example a cow that is destined to go to slaughterhouse, they are gonna kill that cow but if u give her some grass she will be happy, she will forget that shes gonna be slaughtered in no time.. Humans know whats going on..
Also humans are responsible for their deeds while animals arent, humans cant go with a loaded gun on the street and kill people while animals can kill and they wont take any bad karma for it.. Those are just few less important differences but most important is ability to love god..
So we should not waste this human life just for eating, sleeping, breeding and defending..
Having worked at an abbotoir for a year, I can tell you now that nothing other than vet giving the animal a sedative will clam it down, so that is a very poor example to choose champ.
Lay off the karma ridden books and actually look at life, at this reality.
You have way to much ego mate. We seriously are not that great.
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 01:21
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On 2009-03-30 23:16, Aluxe wrote:
xrays, I get a sense that you are just repeating a lot of stuff you have read or heard somewhere else and you are now stating it all as if it's fact even though you are not talking from experience or about things which you have seen and confirmed with your very own eyes.
I mean how can you be so sure that animals are supposed to evolve/reincarnate into humans? Like do you remember when you were a frog or an insect? Even if you say you do, how can everyone else be sure that you are not just channeling this from your own wishful thinking or imagination?
IMO you are assuming a lot when you put yourself above animals or for that matter any living being, be it a cat or plant.
And about humans being no more than a virus with shoes, hehe.. It's an interesting perspective but I don't think its as simple as that and it really all just depends on how you want to look at things because a virus probably has also its place in the universe, and you don't have to see it in a negative way.
In the end I think we want to look for a positive perspective on humanity and try and nourish and support the idea that we can move beyond all the stuff we don't like about ourselves and believe that we can find a harmonious relationship with our environment.
well they dont have to, they go up and down in the food chain, they get body in next life according to their karma and personal wishes, like humans do.. So in that way we are the same but difference is that we can understand it. If u accept the fact that u are eternal soul migrating from one material body to other than it isnt hard to understand it. No of course I dont remember my previous life, though theres lot of people who can remember it, and it was tested and proven by scientists. And yes of course I have learned this from the books, how else could I know these things? Ive read it from some really old books, and as u know knowledge is something that is old. Imagining something and speculating about it cant be knowledge. Would u know how to calculate 2+2 if your teacher didnt tought you? U could eventually came to right conclusion of course but it would take time. Imagine how much would it take for u to figure out some of pitagoras teorems. I mean for me it would take few lives But thats why we have books so we can learn from them and speed up the process.
Lets get back on differences. Every soul is identical, spiritually we are all the same. What differs from soul to soul is level of their consciousness. So according to level of consciousness we get physical body that suits it. In the human body soul can reach highest level of consciousness. It can be conscious of herself but it can also be conscious of god. Then when soul is aware it can have harmonious relationship with everything. But if the soul has low level of awareness than it can be like a virus and cause damage all around. But like u said, even virus has its own purpose of life.
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God exists in everything and everywhere.
Everything He created has it's purpose.
But God created man by his own image!
Man is God's most lovable creation.
He gave us the awareness of our selves.
He gave us also free will!
Everything was made to serve the man's life.
We are much different from the animals as for the body and as also for the soul.
The size of the soul and the energy that the human body can contain is unique.
But the most important thing is the knowledge of our selves and the free will to do everything we want.
We can reach any level from bestial to enlightenment.
We have everything inside us.
Everything that exist(visible or invisible).
We have materials from the stars inside us!
That's a lot more than what animals have or what they will ever get.
But this is also the man's big burden:
To prove what and who he is.
To prove that his is worthy of God's unique creation and that wasn't all done in vain (which it will not ever happen in vain cause everything flows according to God's plant).
To honor his creator (God).
To honor God's creation (man).
To find God inside him.
To find Love.
That's what God is: Love.
And we (the humans and the human life) are the living proof of that!
"Do we deserve to be humans?"
That's a question that everyone including of course me must always prove in a daily base!
p.s.: The most important things in life are invisible! Can we think of that?
Can we estimate the human life?
Can we appreciate the human life?
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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 06:02
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"Do we deserve to be humans?"
Obiously. Becuase we a re humans. You cannot be something if you do not deserve to be it.
I mean, well fuckit if you don;t get how stupid a question like this is then you need to go back to your bibles and bongs! I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 10:38
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On 2009-04-02 06:18, Jedi_knight wrote:
The size of the soul and the energy that the human body can contain is unique.
The size of the soul is identical in all living beings, it is infinitely small..
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On 2009-04-02 06:18, Jedi_knight wrote:
That's what God is: Love.
Love is a feeling.. God is a person with highest amount of that feeling..
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You canot be something if you do not deserve to be it.
Yes of course, but if u loose that right to deserve it u will eventually lose your humanity..
I mean look at paris hilton, she almost lost all wealth she was about to poses, cause she dont deserve it..
So think about your body as highly expensive car u bought on a leasing and if u dont do good they will took it away from u and put u in some yugo..http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions http://www.myspace.com/xrayzproductions
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purpose of life--its to live, the way you want, not the way you are told. because then you need a special purpose with special benefits
At the end of the tunnel is a big brick wall wear seatbealts before smashing into it, dont worry we have airbags so it will be a fun ride.
Sleeping Eating Shitting, Dreaming, Imagining, Wandering, Gazing, are good enough purposes, you dont always have to translate everything thats in your mind into concrete brick or steel moulding, splash on the shore like a wave, or float around like a soapy bubble and suddenly go "pop"...why bother with finding a purpose, then finding a way to fulfill the purpose and ultimately the purpose gets left behind for someone else. Whether u are peace corp or militant u both die. Purpose is something to do, No purpose is bliss
When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
On 2009-04-03 11:28, Xolvexs wrote:
purpose of life--its to live, the way you want, not the way you are told. because then you need a special purpose with special benefits
At the end of the tunnel is a big brick wall wear seatbealts before smashing into it, dont worry we have airbags so it will be a fun ride.
Sleeping Eating Shitting, Dreaming, Imagining, Wandering, Gazing, are good enough purposes, you dont always have to translate everything thats in your mind into concrete brick or steel moulding, splash on the shore like a wave, or float around like a soapy bubble and suddenly go "pop"...why bother with finding a purpose, then finding a way to fulfill the purpose and ultimately the purpose gets left behind for someone else. Whether u are peace corp or militant u both die. Purpose is something to do, No purpose is bliss
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We live and we die. There is no purpose. While alive, live life with openness and experience difference things without going to the extreme. Work when you have to work, have fun when you have to
Read the book 'The Art Of Dying' by Osho. He explains it very well
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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 23:04
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On 2009-03-27 21:45, Forza wrote:
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On 2009-03-27 12:20, x-rayz wrote:
let your guru come here to forum and speak for himself, whats your opinion?
Well, speaking on my own experience, I've discovered that the things of this world will lead to deception only, you can be filthy rich, worldwide famous, drop dead gorgeous, supremely powerful, have a beautiful wife, and anything you want but you will still feel that there is something missing, unless you develop an intimate and personal relationship with your inner self, that omnipresent spirit that is behind everything.
if you develop that relationship then your life (at least mine) will become fulfilling and inspiring, and the highest goal is to attain unity with that being, the name is not important, the truth lies deep within your heart.
Your first sentence starts talks from the perspective of "I" as in you. What has that got to do with anyone else? It's nice to hear that you have found that missing thing. But why the need to preach this way to others? Is it not enough that you have found inner blah blah?
Do you think that your are in possession of the ultimate truth?
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Posted : Apr 5, 2009 02:23
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On 2009-04-03 06:02, Buddha Monkey wrote:
You canot be something if you do not deserve to be it.
Yes of course, but if u loose that right to deserve it u will eventually lose your humanity..
I mean look at paris hilton, she almost lost all wealth she was about to poses, cause she dont deserve it..
So think about your body as highly expensive car u bought on a leasing and if u dont do good they will took it away from u and put u in some yugo..
Yugo?
Is this like hell or something?
I never have and never will believe that a hell exists, something omnipotent and supposedly all loving would never punish it's ultimate creation in "hell".
But then again, who are humans, and even in that certain groups of humans, to say they are this beings "chosen" or "favorite"?
Again, how much damn ego floats around humans?
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Posted : Apr 6, 2009 01:50
Something to satisfy your soul.
Because whatever it is that you want to do. You got to do your thing!
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The whole problem with any discussion about the meaning of life or religions is that we might be asking and looking for answers, but have never found them.
What we do know is that no religious or spiritual belief has proven to be correct in this world, and that it has just led to us developing a “holier than thou” attitude against other humans and started wars and murdered etc. in the name of our so called belief.
All religions and belief systems have done this.
Personally, I think that the meaning of life is just to be able to accept everything and everyone for who and what they are, whether they be black, yellow, white, pink or alien green, disabled or ‘normal’, male or female, Buddhist or Muslim or Jewish and to go about doing what you need to do to survive and enjoy yourselves.
Life is about finding your own little space of personal happiness, and then being able to find the right people to share this with whilst letting others around do the same thing in a peaceful and harmonious manner.
The problem, seriously, is that humans have developed to much of their own greed and ego, which then ultimately lead to wanting more power through the creation of war and suffering.
And X-Rayz, you are such a hypocrite it is not funny. You proclaim such unity and peaceful outlook for animals and vegetables but the way you express your disdain for those who do not conform toy our ways or challenge it, proves that you are just as basic and pathetic as any other egotistical fool who is to blind to see out of the tunnel and accept the world that surrounds them.
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Silence in the beginning and Silence in the End
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A life without purpose of living,is like a boat without a captain to navigate...
If we dont have a purpose, so why we live?
the zero alone is just a zero,and needs at least one unit to give a creation...
We live to die,and die to live again,and again n again...till we manage to liberate like as a spirit,and escape from the bondages of the physical existance, actually the soul never dies and lives in a mode of eternity,unless the soul reaches a point that is useles for the universe,then the soul dies because it wasnt able to fulfill the purpose of existance up on earth,otherwise the soul finds liberation and is ready pass on the next higher level of existance,to live a life like as a spiritual aitherial being somwere on a higher world,and live like as a star that shines solar rays and gives light life and creation to the universe,a real sun...when the soul is completely purified it becames a star,a true sun with a galaxy system around,...universe have unlimited space for everyone to create his own solar system,this is god,this is the final purpose...this is what Krishna Shiva Buddha Jesus...and other gods and masters have done,and with their wise holy pressence up on earth showed us the way how...
We have the free will to belive or not,wew choose our destiny..
Life is not just for fun,fun is for kids,if we dont see life seriously then we will never grow up,and always be the same,life is changing,we need to change,and not be the same kid as we used to be younger,we need not to follow ego because ego seperates us from the divine self,seperates us from the whole universe...
God gaves mind to think,and this ability is what makes the difference between animals,and why god gaves us mind?
God gaves us mind to understand why we live and search for the purpose we were born,search deep within ourselves,and observe the changes of life,observe how the ego controls our body,and seperate the ego part of self with the divine part of self,being with conciousnes and chooce to follow what the divene wants,our inner being,the part of self that connects us with god,and all the universe..
Dear Jedi Knight I like much the way u put words in order,I feell very good when I read ur posts,and I like to answer in ur tricky question"Do we deserve to be humans?"
Answer is NO, we deserve to be gods,not humans,that why we live as a human now,because we have the chance to be like god,but only if we deserve to be like this...
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
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Posted : May 4, 2009 23:32
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On 2009-05-04 16:07, Gopendragon wrote:
A life without purpose of living,is like a boat without a captain to navigate...
If we dont have a purpose, so why we live?
Can't agree more !!!
We are NOT animals !
My friend Gopendragon , very inspiring words for the soul's journey passing to a higher level and even becoming a star , or a true sun !!!
I have thought about it many times , about the stars and the planets because i believe too that they are alive and they have souls as also our planet is a living being , our mother earth which we hurt her so bad...!
There are also many reference in many mythologies about souls who found their glory in the sky and took a place in the universe as star or a planet as a reward for their greatness!!!
Just the names we have gave them can't be a coincidence that are names of heroes or great men walked this earth or even godlike creatures.---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
But thats why we have books so we can learn from them and speed up the process.
