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Old Skool
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Posted : Aug 2, 2004 13:29
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I have a whole bunch or records that have the exact same thing written on it. PUBLIC PERFORMANCE prohibited. |
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::bedbug::
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Posted : Aug 2, 2004 17:21
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...thnk god, you don't do ONLY 'authorized' thingz...
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psunspot
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 03:20
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yay! i always wanted to be a lawbreaker 
i can assure you i've broken a lot more than just that ol 'unauthorized performance' one   
fuck you copper, you're nver taking me alive!
fuck you copper, you can't tackle all of us!
i dont usually talk that way unless i'm drunk
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Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger
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Posted : Aug 3, 2004 08:05
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Well imo at least at the moment God is unemployed and might be suffering from a drinking problem.
But it's only me, maybe I lost a screw myself
What is for sure, I can post a top 10 !!!
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Jikkenteki
Jikkenteki
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 14:33
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Technically all DJs need to pay royalities for the tracks the spin. However the recording industry (in one of the rare moves they made to not grab quick cash) has realized that DJ provide valuable free promotion for music and thus the recording industry officially "overlooks" DJs' use of most music. On top of that, at least in America, all professionally run clubs, live house, etc, have to pay an annual fee which gives them the right to publically play music (as well as allow their bands to play cover tunes, etc) as well, so in that instance the djs are covered by the venue (provided they have paid thei annual dues).
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Spindrift
Spindrift
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 21:54
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It doesn't matter if you are label dj, got a promo or bought the record. The demands from a legal perspective is that the venue have paid they performance royalty fees like Jikkenteki mentioned.
I never heard of venues that have to submit lists, like it supposedly should be in switzerland. Normally the fees is distibuted on the basis of how much radioplay you had = 0 even for a mainstream trance artist.
That those performance laws should be different for vinyl than CD's sounds utterly bizarre to me.
According to the system to perform any copyrighted work, you need to pay the fees, no but's.
When the venue get an enquiry from the local royalty organisation the owners can try to tell them that their DJ's only play promos or vinyls, but I don't think they get away with it.
The DJ's never get in trouble though, because it is the responsibility of the arranger to make the payments. |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 22:04
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One more thing that struck me....
Ironic that the two lablel people in this thread seem to be the most clueless about the meaning of what they write on their releases.
Maybe stop putting all that legal stuff if you can't understand the implications. |
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slomi
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 22:29
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Spindrift ,
well said!!!
and may i add
the same thing is on the radio, they give royalties to the owners of the tracks (if they signed in some company like "acum" in israel)
" You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
- Some dude with a beard
Always remember:
Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up... |
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Spindrift
Spindrift
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 23:02
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Yup, radio is one form of public performance, which happens to be more controlled. Even tiny local stations have to account for every track played.
Also there it doesn't matter if you are a label DJ and is playing promos. |
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Random
Random
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 04:58
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wow what a thred. i just have to jump in, syncronicities don't happen on purpous. i was thinking about all that has been discussed just a few days ago, almost like i picked up on the vibe of this conversation. anyways to my point. what about internet radio stations? or those sites were people stream whole albums just so everyone can hear them? but as far as radio is concerned here in the states the airwaves are tightly controled by the basterds who what all our money to themself. to but it bluntly. we still pull off pirate stations until they come and break down are doors and take the equipment. but I fear the day when a cop with good enought music knowledge trys to bust one of our underground events and knows what track is being played. i guess we have it good for a while. Jikkenteki makes a good point about most lables turning a blind eye to the dj who promotes there music, supposedly increassing the exposure and gaining more sales. Look at the Hip Hop scene and battles over mix tapes/scratch comititions and remix cuts. I'd die laughing if they try to stop that , and psy is miniscule compared.
peace
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Spindrift
Spindrift
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 17:00
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Just had an interesting conversation with the swedish royalty authority STIM.
They said that any musician or label who is registered with them hand over the responsibility of licensing to them for all their works, no exceptions.
That means that it doesn't matter what the label writes on the CD. If it is registered with the local royalty organisation they set the rules for performance, duplication or internet download/broadcast.
And Random: To have a website with even your own music qualifies you for a quite hefty fee. For a site with 2-6 hrs of content, up to 500 simultaneous listeners, and the ability to stream on demand and make playlists you would look at about $200/mth
The interesting thing was that if the lable/site does not register, they can set their own licensing rights. Which would enable them to get rid that 'unauthorized public performance' bit.
Obviously your radio play won't be tracked and paid for by anyone then, but that's not such a great sacrifice in this niche of the music-industry.
I think I'd prefer to write something like "public performance and copying of this work is encouraged, on a non-commercial basis. Any commercial duplication is strictly prohibited without written conscent from the authors".
A kind of GNU, (the standard copyright license for open-source software), for music is what I would like to see. |
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