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mickydm
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 11:27:12
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Hi i just signed up on this site to learn more about producing psytrance. I need some help in creating a good sounding bass. I am using ableton version 8 and Albino 3 and FM7 VSTs. I cannot seem to come up with a nice thick bass and drum combo. I am very new to this altough i have worked with ableton creating more euro trance and house but no psy. Any help would be appriciated! Thanks!
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supergroover
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 11:51
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dj chichke
Chichke
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 11:58
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On 2010-02-05 11:27:12, mickydm wrote:
Hi i just signed up on this site to learn more about producing psytrance. I need some help in creating a good sounding bass. I am using ableton version 8 and Albino 3 and FM7 VSTs. I cannot seem to come up with a nice thick bass and drum combo. I am very new to this altough i have worked with ableton creating more euro trance and house but no psy. Any help would be appriciated! Thanks!
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it's takes few months to get good kick and bass combo so be patient |
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wizanda
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 13:17
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 14:11
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On 2010-02-05 11:58, dj chichke wrote:
it's takes few months to get good kick and bass combo so be patient
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Really?
It took me 4 years  |
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supergroover
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 17:46
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I just bought a Virus TI. Instant happiness 
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Maska
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 19:41
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wow, the virus...one day...One day..............
Enjoy.......
assumption is the mother of all fuckups. |
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aciduss
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 20:01
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nobody knows in fact how to create the perfect bassline, pro's hide their bass recipes in ultra security safeboxes, there is a legend tho that says everything begins with KBBB, small envelope settings and perfect cutoff freq.
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Uedi
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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 20:08
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yes.
some say you can layer a low bass with a mid bass...
some say you can use automation on some notes for spice!
That's a mystery! 
Sometimes it's not that hard to get a good bass..
Like someone said before, the real deal is to get the perfect Kick+bass combo.
It takes time! |
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vipal
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 07:39
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get cronox2 |
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naga
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 17:17
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Cronox is a good place to start, but it's not really about the synth; it's about knowing the synth/equipments/soundsystem and trusting your ears.
some tricks:
-cronox 2 saw with short decay, 50% sustain&release, cutoff 40-120hz
-light hp 20-40hz
-multidynamics for tighten up lower frequencies and giving punch for highs. <midfq fast attack&release and >midfq >25ms attack and fast release. Kills dynamics from bottom and gives more percussive detail for highs
-add 1st EQ to cut all shit resonances (by sweeping spectrum with high Q) (Sonnox EQ)
-add 2st EQ to fit the bassline to a song(low Q and something like 4 band EQ) (Waves SSL)
-add sidechain compressor or sidechain EQ to avoid conflicts with kick. Automation is ok.
-compress them in a group
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 17:29
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use some hardware synth samples, more clean, more depth ,romplers like trilogy
i wonder if using a filter and a envelop modulation on it is really needed, if it sound good wihtout dont bother using one ,but it all depends the track and the bassline sound you want. |
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 18:36
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Yeah it's not really a matter of the synth used as much as personal preference.
I'm quite confident I can make a bassline with any synth, but I can't get anything I like for bass out of albino, which I use for pretty much everything else that isn't bass.
Also just a little EQ should be all that is needed and the real effort is in the programming. |
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menu mental
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 20:12
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Shifu: (to Po) Teaching kung fu(psytrance) is an art that takes years to master. (glances at the bunny students) Do not be disappointed if you failed. (Turns to a student) Tell me, what do you know about Kung Fu(psytrance)?
Student 1: Uhhhh.
Student 2: (Cuts in) It's about fighting(bassline)! (Shifu looks disapprovingly at Po, but then the student continues) But it's also about having patience.
(All the other students jump in.)
Student 3: And courage.
Student 4: And discipline.
Student 5: And compassion.
Student 1: (Finally can speak) Uhhh, it builds Confidence?
(Shifu looks surprised at Po, who just smiles.)
Shifu: (Surprised and impressed) Well, uh, you carry on, Master Po. (Starts to leave, feeling more relaxed) I'm going to meditate. (Leaves)
[Last lines; Po's about to leave after successfully teaching the children the secrets of kung fu(psytrance).]
Bunny Child: (to Po) Wait Po, what about you?
Po: Me?
Bunnies: Yeah! Tell us about your first day! Tell us! Come on, tell us!
Po: (after remembering all the bad memories he had when he first came to the Jade Palace, surprisingly gives the children an excited smile) It was totally awesome! |
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Uedi
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Posted : Feb 6, 2010 20:23
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I like the old Muon Tau and the Muon electro.
No one pays attention to them anymore.
Steinberg CS40 is cool too!
VB-1 is also nice, but for tiny basses imo.
I'm not into Cronox! Don't like it much |
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