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Psychadelic Trance , what is it exacly ?
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RenderingRebel
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Posted : Jan 11, 2008 16:44
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its just a stupid genre name that excists for too long and because of this it lost its meaning 
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safi-connection
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Posted : Jan 12, 2008 16:04
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On 2008-01-10 20:03, spytooned psytones wrote:
- POPSY
Eat it, chew it, taste it, shit it out.
Hey Safi Connectionman. Are you planning on releasing a pure psychedelic album or something? Trance or Trip?
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hi bro , i really dont know what i do myself
hope u & some others , gone like it .
anyway ill keep trying till i die , i guess
boom
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safi-connection
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Posted : Jan 12, 2008 16:05
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On 2008-01-10 19:59, Stregone wrote:
Go buy you an hobby 
I joke anyway, for sure I think is all confusion and chaos because of those junky dark heads, we have, us, the psychedelik trancers, to fight and kick off from our movement the progressivers and keep our genre clean and crystal clear.
COME ON, STOP with all those subgenre!
We have to be pure! go search the roots of psychedelia and positive vibes!
Ok I stop saying bullshit
Anyway I think in the next years we'll see a split of the scene as I already wrote in many other topics...
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i fukking agreee myfriend
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soulfood
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Posted : Jan 13, 2008 04:03
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On 2008-01-12 16:05, safi-connection wrote:
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On 2008-01-10 19:59, Stregone wrote:
Go buy you an hobby
I joke anyway, for sure I think is all confusion and chaos because of those junky dark heads, we have, us, the psychedelik trancers, to fight and kick off from our movement the progressivers and keep our genre clean and crystal clear.
COME ON, STOP with all those subgenre!
We have to be pure! go search the roots of psychedelia and positive vibes!
Ok I stop saying bullshit
Anyway I think in the next years we'll see a split of the scene as I already wrote in many other topics...
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i fukking agreee myfriend
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God forbid that music be effected by outside influence...
I mean really?
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playtek
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Psychadelic Trance
Trance psicadélico or trance psicodélico (referred to as a psy trance) is a form of electronic music developed in the late 1980 in Israel from Goa trance. This style has a quick hit, between 135 and 165 beats per minute (bpm), in addition to the strong beat, kick, a compass 4x4, which sometimes differs from the techno beat to have a range of frequency slightly higher than the sons serious. The Goa trance original was usually done with synthesizers and samplers modular hardware, but preferably in a trance psicodélico be directed to the handling and storage of samples in programs of sampleamento VST and AU. The use of analog synthesizers for the synthesis sound gave rise to the instruments "analog virtual" digital as the Nord Lead, Access Virus, Korg MS-2000, Roland JP-8000 and PC VST plugins, and AU as Native Instruments Hammer Heads. These usually controlled by a MIDI sequencer within a programme of Digital Audio Workstation (DAW). The trance psicodélico is often played at festivals Outdoors (far from major urban centres), which may last several days, with music playing 24 hours a day.
Strands of style
It is one of the most popular styles of electronic music in recent years, and has been played since raves for this specific style to more commercial clubs. It is quite psicodélico, with the main characteristic of the idea of trance where the listener enter, packaged by synthesizer lines repeated over the beats of the music, which is a pace 4 / 4. Since its emergence, the trance already gone through several changes. According to the details on its structure, may be the Progressive styles, Dark and Psychodelic, among others. Each side became independent, forming a school for the artists involved. Therefore, it is possible to monitor the scene psicodélica in particular.
Within the current scene, the production of electronic music is abundant and rich in quality, dividing up neatly into three main strong currents: Full On, Progressive and Dark.
Full On
It is the heavier element in the rapid Psy Trance. His low are incurred with many variations of tones, synthesizers to the extreme and for a large oscillation between moments of euphoria and total melodies worked well, generally built between 142 and 150 bpms. It is certainly a sound that has an appeal dancing. It is campy and inviting the expression of the body dance. His items are entering, each in his time, until the music fills, and then explodes. Some of the aspects are the Absolum, Alien Project, aka Hibotic Rafah, GMS, Fuzzy Project, Infected Mushroom, Logic Bomb, Phantasmatic, Duo Sensuality, Sesto Sento, Parasense, Astrix, Talamasca, Sub6, 1200 Mics, Eskimo, Growling Machines and Dynamic . The Full On divided into:
Morning: sub-element which is most common during the morning in the festivities, with very great groove and melody. Most of the "mornings" comes from Israel. Artists like Astrix, Vibe Tribe, Melicia, Psydrop, DNA and Sesto Sento bets in the "morning" with its highly melódicos synths. Exponents of "morning" of other countries also stand out, such as Protoculture (South Africa), Bamboo Forest (France) and Orbital Vision (Brazil).
High Tech: sub-strand very common in the afternoon in the festivities, is derived from the morning, and has more electronic effects. The biggest producers of "high tech" Israelis are as Perplex, Phanatic, Freedom Fighters, Ananda Shake, and other good producers of various nationalities.
Night: sub-part that stands out by the mix of elements of the Dark Trance (heavy beats, synthesizers dark) with a more accelerated pace, few melodies and is more dancing. The best known project of night, although many consider the "dark" is the Shift. Some artists of the sub-head: Winter Demon, Azax Syndrom, Damage, Seroxat, Iron Madness, Neuromotor, Menog, Abomination and Fungus Funk.
Groove: sub-strand that does not distinguish "night" or "morning", has the main creator French Talamasca the project is well accepted at any time, uses synthesizer also very much explosion, lines down incorporated more and melodies from easy
Dark
It is a subvertente of Psychedelic Trance (Trance psicadélico), which has a dark character, dark and sinister, unlike Morning Trance which has melodies and happy. It is characterized by having effects short and quick, beats that range from 140-200 bpm without a melody of tacky synthesizer, low rectum or in some cases' grooveado ', bumbo (kick) and heavy samples (samples of sound) macabre of films as: screams, laughs, sounds of animals, interjeições. Usually you hear on the night of the festivities, some parties can last for several hours with the same subvertente arriving at dusk, such as sets of Goa Gil. Besides, presents synthesizers characteristic of effects of terror in films and each song has a different rhythm well and may be dancing or not (in most cases heavy or very accelerated).
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safi-connection
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 17:29
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Zman
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Posted : Jan 14, 2008 17:40
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On 2008-01-13 06:22, playtek wrote:
Dark
It is a subvertente of Psychedelic Trance (Trance psicadélico), which has a dark character, dark and sinister, unlike Morning Trance which has melodies and happy. It is characterized by having effects short and quick, beats that range from 140-200 bpm without a melody of tacky synthesizer, low rectum or in some cases' grooveado ', bumbo (kick) and heavy samples (samples of sound) macabre of films as: screams, laughs, sounds of animals, interjeições. Usually you hear on the night of the festivities, some parties can last for several hours with the same subvertente arriving at dusk, such as sets of Goa Gil. Besides, presents synthesizers characteristic of effects of terror in films and each song has a different rhythm well and may be dancing or not (in most cases heavy or very accelerated).
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If you are portraying your understanding of night time music then i must say you are disillusioned. Night time music isn't always sinister, night time music can have melodies & night time music can also be positive, inspirational & beautiful as opposed to it 'not being happy' you said. Night time isn't characterized by samples from macabre themed films? It has more to do with atmospheres and a feeling/vibe from the sounds that mimic those that remind us of the night - not necessarily something sinister & creepy. This is real psychedelia IMO True beauty within psytrance lies in nightpsy IMO. I  night time music  |
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Psy_mystic
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Posted : Jan 17, 2008 17:07
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i believe "psychedelic trance", the name at least, states the bleeding obvious dunnit?
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Pt.
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Posted : Jan 17, 2008 17:16
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Take a drop of LSD and listen, and you will understand.
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exotic
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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 08:50
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Something that has been anal-yzed over and over again .. every third day there is some thread complaining about another sub-genre .. its getting kinda boring.
As for safi connection's question .. magox answered it perfectly..to judge whether progressive or any sub genre of this style of music is psychedelic or not entirely depends on how the listener perceives it. so there isnt a need for an authority to decide what fits in where. let the listener decide for himself , ok? some of the low bpm stuff is so much more stimulating for me at least. some people might find house more psychedelic than dark psycore if you get my drift. I enjoy mostly all styles of electronic music so its completely fine with me if other variants are incorporated in the genre apart from what already exists .. quality stuff of course which goes without saying it. 
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On 2008-01-17 17:07, Psy_mystic wrote:
i believe "psychedelic trance", the name at least, states the bleeding obvious dunnit?
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exotic
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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 09:07
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On 2007-11-29 21:14, safi-connection wrote:
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On 2007-11-18 13:02, Run Lola wrote:
Actually, good question, i have been listening to psychedelic trance for a really long time, and i still haven't figured out what it really is. I know that i can recognize it the moment i hear it...
so what u re saying is that progressive trance should be kicked out as a psychedelic genre because it is not psychedelic enough!! hmmm.. where is magox?
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I'm right here ms. lola. I guess we've all had this discussion more than once before... It's subjective, a matter of taste, and since psychedelic music is not something that is tangible, we can all go around here in circles and get no where in trying to give absolution to the word psychedelic music.
however, if we are trying to define it, and i had to describe it, i guess it all comes from the root of the word 'psychedelic' which means a mental state characterized by a profound sense of intensified sensory perception, that is sometimes accompanied by severe perceptual distortion and hallucinations which many times are produced from various drugs producing this state, as LSD, mescaline, or psilocybin. Which sometimes resembles a reproduction of images, sounds, or things of this nature that are experienced while in such a state.
So whatever sounds like this that makes you feel this way is what i would consider psychedelic music.
As far as progressive music not being considered psychedelic.... i guess that's their opinion. But most of the time, the people that have this opinion in what i have seen are so lost up their dark asses they can't see anything beyond their asshole.
Sure their is a lot of music that i don't consider 'psychedelic' and their is a lot of progg that i wouldnt consider it as well, but to write off a whole subgenre, is just narrowminded.
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didnt mean to write off a whole subgenre.
my point is , why call it sub genere & not a standalone .
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clever way of trying to imply that prog is not psychedlic ? 
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 13:17
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Proggressive is not a Psychedelic music at all (I don’t even call it trance).
should it be removed from this scene or not???
it doesn't matter. let others make money and survive in this physical world. Don’t be evil. Give a chance to “Progrance” = it has his own crowd.
Also most of full on trance music (yeah full on is trance) today isn’t Psychedelic.
But it doesn’t mean those are bad music. No no no, don’t get me wrong, I love progg, full on, euro trance, and many more styles of music.
But here iam trying to define the music as I “see” it and hear it. (self opinion only).
Euphoria trance, for example is very nice, and has a lot of feelings (I mean the style of armin van buuren and paul van dyk, above and beyond, holland artists, etc…) it’s energetic trance ,not psychedelic, but has a lot of feelings inside…simply euphoria music, that normal ppl can understand it. It lets you feel happy and satisfied and simply smile once you first listen to it.
Same same progressive, it’s more beat music, shaking ass slowly…for normal mind ppl. And sometimes it has feelings like euphoria trance…I enjoy to listen to it a lot but only in normal mods coz i can't think psychedelic here.no self imgination involved inside (what happens always in psytrance).
so we agree (Me and I) that all the above are not psytrance.
Coz when we listen to psytrance, the main purpose is breaking the matrix {{in parties I mean}}!!! (I think many of you know what I mean – for those who are not I will try to explain somehow using simple examples).
-I’ve dig many years, many different music styles in dancefloors. And each time had a new experience, till I got to a point that experiences were recycled and got a new mask but actually have the same purpose or result.
So how does it related to this topic:
HERE WE GO:
All my trips in psytrance parties were crashed once a progg dj was playing his tunes. Progg music is borring! (please don’t take it personally) it doesn’t fit psytrance parties, other way, don’t call it psytrance party, Call it: college final semester party, alcohol and chix.
I like also those parties but I go prepared in other way mentally.
Each time I’ve listened to progg music, after massive psytrance set or before, I started dosing (sleeping) not kidding. Its kinda sleepy music…
And the worse case, is when there is a progg set, then psy set then again progg set.
(ok I went off topic, sorry).
Pure Psychedelic music lets your mind thinks in non-normal way.
An Example: when a normal mind person (he or she) listen to a pure psychedelic trance he/she might be confused or maybe laugh but will not listen more than few minutes coz he/she will ask you to turn off this “strange music” but you as Psychedelic trance lover and “scientist” ((you dig music right ;-)) Will continue listening to it hours non stop without getting bored and you may use your imagination while the track is played to make it massive and go to heavy mental journeys.
Well it’s only my "own" opinion, so take it easy.
I love all brilliant music,
But I only wrote what I feel about specific style in a dancefloor.
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safi-connection
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