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				| aXis IsraTrance Full Member
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 04:41
 
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On 2008-03-05 18:43, Fragletrollet wrote:
 everything is psycehedelic if youll let it be, but ofcourse in different ways. Try listening to any kind of music in an elevated state of consciousness, and tell me its not! Hehe
   
 
 
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 Please listen to all the CRAP thats being released these days all around whn ur eleveated ... Ull never wanna listen to psytrance again ... i wud rather listen to goood rock music than to new psytrance brand noise.
 
 BUT , i have to agree wit spytooned that there is some REALLLLYYYYYYY original psychedelia in this genre . Just need to know where to look and for wat .
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				| aXis IsraTrance Full Member
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 04:43
 
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On 2008-03-05 14:31, a3k wrote:
 i really feel a lot of music coming out this days is boring and not at all psychedelic.
 some producers are machines of making music without any content inside.
 
 
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 agreeed 200%
 
 But, I do believe now that tthere is a ball of energy just ready to explode yet again like it did back in the flower power era. This time tho its more 2008, Its way more stronger than those lost hippies. And a WAY LLOT MORE psychedelic.
 
 I see it in art around me , the VIDEOS around me , places where i work, EVERYWHERE there is a hidden undercurrent of wat i know as psychedelia. Just there in the human subconciousness Grid . All ready to come back .
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				| Soul Kontakt Soul Kontakt
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 12:41
 
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						| Psytrance is psychedelic and forever will be! You cannot generalise cause right now it has grown too much and much that once was is now lost...But of course by time Psytrance will become what it truely is ;- Psychedelic intelligent dancefloor music   |  
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				| Ellon IsraTrance Full Member
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 13:02
 
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On 2008-03-06 12:41, Soul Kontakt wrote:
 Psytrance is psychedelic and forever will be! You cannot generalise cause right now it has grown too much and much that once was is now lost...But of course by time Psytrance will become what it truely is ;- Psychedelic intelligent dancefloor music
   
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 This very true....i reckon that many of the sounds are not new but still keep the psycadelic vibe. And of course im only refering to quality music.....leaving the cheese outside!!!!
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				| aXis IsraTrance Full Member
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 15:06
 
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						| so if its lost, shudnt we lose ourslvs wit it ?? |  
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 15:26
 
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 yo ellon ,
 
 it is Psychedelic.
 gotta be choosy:D
 
 
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				| mukti777 Mukti
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 19:00
 
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						| Soul Kontakt & Fraggletrollet summed it up perfectly...new or old it doesn't matter..once psychedelic, always psychedelic!  Piper at the Gates of Dawn is still one the most psychedelic albums ever created...almost 40 yrs. later, it stands the test of time and continues to melt my brain!  The question is  how psychedelic is the listener?  And of course, what one defines as psychedelic.              "Any act, if in accordance with the Will, is an act of Magick." metameme.org
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				| Xamanist Xamanist
 
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 Posted : Mar 6, 2008 19:53
 
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						| good points, mukti777                Sérgio Xamanist facebook.com/xamanist
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				| Domingo David Sonnentiger
 
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						| I also think it's a question of definition. I define psychedelic in music as somehow colourful and spacey, like it was the psychedelic rock in the 60ies and 70ies and like it is good psytrance from the beginnings to nowadays, with the slight influences of oriental and blues and other scales and with a bunch of FX leading to sounds that remind on stuff outside of the range of natural sounds. 
 From this point of view (and only from this), a bunch of nowadays psytrance isn't psychedelic any more, to less melodic and to much FX- and bass-orientated to fit "psychedelic" in this sense. But if you define it another way...
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				| Addictive Elements IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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 Posted : Mar 7, 2008 05:06
 
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On 2008-03-06 19:00, mukti777 wrote:
 Soul Kontakt & Fraggletrollet summed it up perfectly...new or old it doesn't matter..once psychedelic, always psychedelic!  Piper at the Gates of Dawn is still one the most psychedelic albums ever created...almost 40 yrs. later, it stands the test of time and continues to melt my brain!
 
 
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 Its not the psychedelia of the old albums  /music thats being questioned....its that of the new ones thats being spoken abt....
              ----- Hippies...they wanna save the earth....but all they ever do is smoke pot ---- |  
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				| Ah-sid 
 
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						| psy music is like food for me,u cant taste the same recipe all the time,u need changes from time to time to appreciate it.i guess isreali full-on has kinda saturated every1's appetite and v need to change our diet towards finlands suomi to aussie demon tea recs to CCR types till sanaton records to catch the psy wich is long gone pete toong........... i like to call it the EVOLUTION
 forget the same predictable melodies and breaks and wat all goes in commercial so called artists and dj's of the new-gen-trance...
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				| Zero-Blade Zero-Blade
 
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				| a3k IsraTrance Team
 
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						| ^^ Zero Blade it is not the question of what is psychedelic to you, or to me..it is a fact that there is a lot of crap being released this days, music that doesn´t not fit the word psychedelic..sometimes to cheesy, sometimes to hardcore, sometimes to crap..and it is a fact that there is necessary to dig a lot to find good music.              ... |  
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				| Zman IsraTrance Junior Member
 
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 Posted : Mar 10, 2008 17:21
 
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						| Right now there is more crap being released than ever before... But those who are immensely immersed in this music always end up finding the right releases without having to go through all the junk   
 Psytrance alive & kicking
   
 BooM Shankar
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