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rich
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Posted : Apr 23, 2011 00:46
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Creatin is a naturally occuring substance found mostly in red meat. It helps your muscles recover quicker from a workout, allowing you to hit the next workout with new strength. It also fills the muscle cells with water, so gives you a puffed up look. I've used creatin in the past but honestly, I couldn't tell if it was the creatin or my own workout and diet that was making a difference, if there was a difference. Today I just use whey after a workout.
I've heard some side effects of creatin are upset stomach, but I never had that. You do need to increase your fluid intake while using it. Maybe that's why you're thirsty  Your body is telling you to drink more.
As for sleeplessness, I haven't heard that's a side effect and never experienced that myself.
Red spots on your shoulders could be stretch marks. Most body builders use zinc balms for that. My wife is pregnant and I'm having her use shea butter which also helps for stretch marks. Look for a pure one, no fragrance or anything.
Other than creatin for pre-worout, try green tea and a piece of fruit or juice. There are all kinds of products to boost your energy level before a workout, and I've tried a couple and they do amp you up get your blood pumping hard and my son in his teens made some crazy strength gains with it. For me it seems a little scary, I felt like my veins were going to pop LOL, especially with some crazy tech trance blasting in my ears. Aaarrrrgh! One more rep!!!
The NO explode stuff looks like it'll do the trick, and without the caffeine, which is better than the stuff I used.
exotic, you say you put on a lot of mass/bulk with the gold standard whey. Could it also be your diet? or that it was a growth spurt, usually associated with a first year of working out? You could try the Muscle Tech, but if your diet is heavy, the whey product you choose probably won't make a difference (except on your wallet. Some of those products are super pricey). Looking at this product, looks like it just has a multi vitamin thrown in there, along with the artificial sweeteners Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium and some yellow food coloring. I don't know, I like to keep it pure and simple without that stuff.
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Posted : Apr 28, 2011 13:20
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Well its been over one year since I hit the gym seriously and i initially did get a considerable amount of pump with the NO explode so much so I could do twice the amount of reps without putting in as much effort and feeling absolutely spent compared to when i did not consume NO. It really did pull up my energy levels to a point that i could work out for 2 hours at a stretch. But now when I take the same dosage I don't feel the difference that i felt earlier. I think my body is getting immune to the stuff i need to start looking for other ways to build ATP , still have some research to do on that topic. The thing with creatine is there is a lot material online to read but one doesn't know who to trust because they are all pushing products at the end of the day , someone will say don't trust creatine phosphate/citrate and ATP supplements on the market , they are destroyed during digestion and contain less creatine per gram whereas the absorption rate of the citrate is much higher compared to mono-hydrate.
The mass I put on could have been due the diet but im not sure since it hasn't increased as a result of working out , I've always been a gormandizer. The best way to check would be to try the muscle tech and compare the results for myself.
Did you put on weight/flab initially when you were using the gold standard ? Do you combine it with carbohydrates / banana shake and the sorts?
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 02:40
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I've been using gold standard since I discovered it years ago. I can't recall if I noticed any weight gain in the form of flab when I initially started using it. And just going by the ingredients, there really isn't anything in there that would get stored as fat on your body, that I can tell.
My diet has changed a bit these past few years. I'm getting old and my body is metabolizing differently now, so I'm wary of any extra calories I take in that I know won't get used anytime soon. I work out 30-45 minutes 4 days a week and do some form of cardio every other day for at least half hour (running, biking, skateboarding, bouldering (indoor. gets my heart pounding), canoe paddling, sex (hey my heart rate's up, it counts!)) but still I can't get rid of my spare tire. That's my only weak spot. I have a six pack, but there's that bike tire around my lower abs I can't melt off. I don't think it's from the gold standard though.
Yes I do make fruit smoothies if I feel I need a boost in carbs (taken half hour before the activity). But I always take my whey after the workout. My stomach gets queasy if I take it before, for some reason. And if I know I won't be eating a meal for a couple hours after the post-workout whey, I'll put fruit in it, to refuel the muscles (but not always. I want my body to use some fat instead).
That's good you're doing your research. I got too overwhelmed with all the info out there and yeah, everyone is out to sell something. Hard to trust or know the truth. That's why I'm just sticking to basics. Whey protein after a workout. I was contemplating studying and getting a degree in sports nutrition or something like that just to educate myself for my own sake. I think it's fascinating how the body works, and what you can do to optimize it.
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Posted : Apr 30, 2011 07:14
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The best way to get rid of the spare tire (I have it too due to a bollocking amount beer over the years) after consulting some top guys in the work out biz and some research is to do the cardio early morning on an empty stomach when the blood sugar and carb levels are the lowest and the body cannot look for any other energy source other than fat . The carb/blood sugar levels are low during the day if you haven't consumed any calories for 4/5 hours but not as less compared to when you wake up , provided you haven't eaten too much carb at night, so the body still goes for carbs and blood sugar when looking for energy sources to replenish itself.
You probably already know about this and are finding it hard to do the cardio routine early in the morning. It apparently works wonders.
Ive just recently learned of this but haven't really put into practice. I play some badminton too and there is an opportunity to go play really early but i haven't really done anything about it as yet. I will have to start running atleast 5 km every morning if I want anything close to those wash board abs ive been working for shining through veil of fat than conceals it.
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Posted : May 3, 2011 22:43
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Yes! I only just realized this for myself a few weeks ago actually! I knew I was on to something, but actually I haven't put it into practice yet either
I (often) have to run like mad or grab my skateboard and push like hell to make it to my bus in the morning on an empty stomach and when I drop down into the seat with my heart pounding and panting like a dog I realize damn, this is how to do it!
Morning cardio, before fueling the cells with glycogen, so they have only fat to use.
Now I just have to discipline to get up early enough in the morning to do a run for at least 30 minutes (I heard the body only starts to burn fat after 50 minutes. but if you're on an empty stomach, probably 30 minutes should do it I hope. What have you heard about how long to do cardio for?)
The weather is finally nice in San Francisco, and I have a choice of hills or beach to run on
For ab work I've been relying on hanging leg raises, cos it seems to hit the lower abs pretty good. I try to keep my legs as straight as I can make them so it's not just knee raises.
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Posted : May 3, 2011 23:51
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pre workout = strong black coffee + one banana + two dried dates
post workout = protein shake right after the weight training, then i do 1/2 hour aerobic workout and then @ home i eat a tuna or red meat meal
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Posted : May 4, 2011 08:06
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^ Nice and simple and does the trick!
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Posted : May 4, 2011 14:34
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faxinadu
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Posted : May 4, 2011 14:39
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also, for the first 20-30 minutes of aerobic workout, the body goes to the fastest available energy source (either carbs or protein). if there are no carbs in your body then the body starts burning protein from muscle cells... not good!!!!
the trick is to eat a small amount of carbs before workout, to last the body for 20-30 minutes. this is why i go for a banana or some dates before a workout. this way your workout will give you the same fat burning results without sacrificing muscle tissue.
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Posted : May 4, 2011 19:07
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yeah I've held dumbells between my feet for added resistance for the abs. Haven't been doing that lately and just been going for max reps, but I'll mix it up with weights as well.
Not so sure about the body burning protein from muscle after the carbs are depleted. All the literature I've read says it uses fat next, then muscle.
For my anaerobic workout, I make sure I'm carb loaded, cos I want every rep to be burning glycogen (carbs) and nothing else.
For cardio, I want to condition the heart , not really any other muscle, apart for what's used in high rep movement.
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Ok , seems like a nice one. Chocolate usually is one of the better tasting ones i think. I prefer to mix the powder with milk though, thinks it gets more creamy and milk adds some extra protein and carbohydrates.But i guess it`s a matter of taste. And also if one wants extra carbohydrates or not
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Posted : Feb 5, 2012 07:02
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Yes, they can for sure give some extra boost. I think they help a lot with endurance and to get a better pump.
Dimethylamylamine ( and also beta alanin ) seems to be one of the key ingriedients on many of the newer PWO`s. Seems a bit Ephedra like.
I got the Mutant mayhem PWO , Jack3d and Superpump max, which is a bit different then the two others . It does not get the same "coffeine rush" but really gets a good focus and pump.
I dont think its healthy to take to much PWO`s , but sometimes its helpful,and i dont think that it is so much worse the coffea, they also contains creatine and other stuff. Those days when one is tired and hits the gym , a glass of pwo and some some good music can be the solution.
My favorite i think is Mutant mayhem. The two others are great to though. Important to take it early on the day if one wants to be able to sleep at night. |
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Posted : Feb 5, 2012 07:13
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This is my favorite protein drink so far
Excellent chocolate taste which i mix with milk. Taste a bit like a milkshake and it contains very little carbohydrates and fat.
Some years ago i used to mix my chocolate protein powder with some raw eggs and a banana in the milk. Maybe i should give it a shot with this one to.
These bars are awesome to, you can just throw away all your snickers when you get these 
So i am ending up using three products from mutant mayhem and i think its a really good company.
http://www.iammutant.com/
However i think one should not use to much products and supplies, the basic should be a well balanced and high protein food source.And to eat a lot of vegetables and fruits. But sometimes it can be very handy and nice with some extra boost at the gym , a protein shake though always gets down when i train.
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Posted : Feb 5, 2012 07:28
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On 2011-04-11 03:08, TimeTraveller wrote:
i got a spots on my shoulders looking like stretch marks ..red veins.. never saw it before.Can it be from creatin? Saw it the day after my leg train ..any expirience with it would be nice to hear an advice..
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The creatine itself has not caused it, but the fast growth that you got from it can be the reason. You can get this marks when you grow fast in size.
You can prevent and heal those a bit by eating extra zink.
You can also have some oil or skin cream at the problem area before you train for preventing.
"Stretch marks or striae (singular stria), as they are called in dermatology, are a form of scarring on the skin with an off-color hue. They are caused by tearing of the dermis, which over time may diminish, but will not disappear completely.
Stretch marks are often the result of the rapid stretching of the skin associated with rapid growth. Stretch marks may also be influenced by hormonal changes associated with puberty, pregnancy, muscle building, hormone replacement therapy for transsexuals, etc.[1] Medical terminology for these kinds of markings includes striae atrophicae, vergetures, stria distensae, striae cutis distensae, striae gravidarum (in cases where it is caused by pregnancy), lineae atrophicae, linea albicante, or simply striae."
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Posted : Feb 5, 2012 07:34
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