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___squidbyte
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Posted : May 7, 2001 18:12:27
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what is the deal with producers that go and play DJ sets sometime at the same party? occaisionally i find it cool cuz they may have some obscure tracks... but i've yet to hear the producers actually MIX anything. "here's some music i made... and now here's a set of songs i like"?
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___Auspexx
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Posted : May 8, 2001 09:17:32
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Look for Elik from the Good Karma production (boat). The guy learned the job well (he had some really good teachers), and I forsee a big future ahead of him.
Bom Elik! |
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___shahar
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Posted : May 8, 2001 10:13:28
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I think it's a question of earning money to be able to make more music. It's distorted, but that's the way things work here. |
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___GuyShanti
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Posted : May 8, 2001 15:42:27
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I'll tell u why: most party producers r frustrated DJs. party time is a valuble thing and putting yourself on a party line up as a new and unknown DJ is a hard thing to do - u need to know the right ppl, u need personal charm etc.
so- u make your own party.
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___Auspexx
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Posted : May 8, 2001 16:15:33
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Lets divide this issue into 2 types:
1. When a small-time DJ organizes a party so he can play in it thats:
A. Pathetic,
B. Totaly unprofessional. The party organizer should be available and focus on the technical flow of the party, and not disappear behind the mixer for 2-3 hours.
2. When a party producer turns to play as a DJ, and that's why I refered to Elik. The guy never thought about actualy playing, but now it seems it got into him, and he does it quite well actualy. Here I have no objections as long as you don't play in your own party (see above).
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___GuyShanti
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Posted : May 8, 2001 16:21:33
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Tal - I strongly dissagree and thats all I'll say. i dont want to start a hashmatsot thread.
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___tomeron
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Posted : May 8, 2001 16:25:58
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like everthing nowdays :
even a party line up can b somtimes full in politiecs (politika)....
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___Auspexx
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Posted : May 8, 2001 16:50:43
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Shanti, Its good for the soul to be humble.
Why Hasmatsot? I haven't pointed at someone specific here, and I dont intend to start now.
Au-contre, I've given compliments...
I just believe that an organizer should concentrate in running the party (security, money, first-aid, police, people, etc'), and if he goes behind the mixer its like a restaurat manager starting to clean tables in the middle of service - he loses contact with the whole area.
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___Kinetichonda
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Posted : May 8, 2001 17:54:53
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Hey guys. You all got it wrong.
When squid was talking about producers he meant Music Producers, Yozrim. he was talking about the studio men VS the Decks Jokeys.
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___squidbyte
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Posted : May 8, 2001 18:05:40
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haha exactly... here we call the people that put on a party "promoters"...
when i say producers i am referring to what happened this weekend for example... uriel from wizzy noise played a 2 hour live set then hopped on the decks but didn't actually mix -- he just played some songs in a row... and probably got paid a whole pile for doing it too. if a promoter is paying for 4 hours why not make more of it live?.. even though wizzy weren't all that live anyway :/
from reading interviews with producers i've noticed a common thread: many don't actually listen to much psy/goa yet they are often asked to play DJ sets... i just wonder about that situation. it seems not right somehow...
but also, when promoters do shady things like put the headliners on from 2 to 4 and from 6 to 8 and then put themselves on right in between that REALLY sucks. a promoter did that in montreal when i went to see chi a.d. and b.o.t.f.b. and it was lame as hell. |
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___Auspexx
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Posted : May 8, 2001 19:06:12
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worse than Chi A.D and B.O.T.F.B both? he was probably Tiesto...hehehe... |
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___squidbyte
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Posted : May 8, 2001 23:05:36
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he played ok music... but in no sensible order... and it wasnt mixed... and i couldn't enjoy chi a.d. at all cuz i was too tired to dance by the time they came on [6am!!!] all cuz the promoter wanted to feel like a cool guy. |
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___kaz
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Posted : May 9, 2001 11:09:33
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Well, Mark Allen and Nick Taylor are two shining examples of producers that are also brilliant DJs. Being a producer doesn't automatically make you a DJ, but at least you can be sure that he has an understanding of the music, and that's a GREAT starting point. |
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___Kinetichonda
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Posted : May 9, 2001 19:07:00
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Add to the fact that mark was a promoter at some point as well, and you have the ultimate Trance allarounder. |
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___Black-Eyed-Wolf
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Posted : May 9, 2001 20:04:04
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As long as the set is good -> Bring It On !!!! |
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