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Producers pay for registered tracks???
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Gollum
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Posted : Dec 20, 2004 23:54
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Hello all producers members of isratrance... Iam going to start producing music and a question came to my mind....
If y want to rmx a track that its already registered, like gms has done it with Ghostbusters or Requiem do i hv hv to pay something to the original author?????
Do you guys do it??
How does this work??
Well i hope you can help me 
cya
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nobody4
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 00:41
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yes, in theory you have to pay for the holder of the copyrights.
Of course, the psy scene is so irrelevant that most chances are that nobody will ever know about this or that remix...
You (or rather, the label who license the rights to publish a remix) are taking a risk by publishing any material that uses a sample which is longer than 16 seconds, or is an essential part of a track (like the theme of "money for nothing" in 1200 Mics track).
You can of course try to obtain rights for using material in your music, but believe me, its a totaly different world with totaly different prices... its never worth it in the trance scene.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 01:27
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Now if you totally remake a song with your own instruments, does it matter? Are the notes copywritten or what?
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Gollum
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 01:31
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On 2004-12-21 01:27, basilisk wrote:
Now if you totally remake a song with your own instruments, does it matter? Are the notes copywritten or what?
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Yes i think the same way, but i wanted to get shure.....
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HandA
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 02:08
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It dosent matter how long a sample is. If it's regionisable you have to pay the original copyright owner - in princible.
And no matter if you redo a song by playing all notes yourself it's still owned by the original copyright owner of the song. It's not the notes itself but the melody that are copyrighted! |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 03:34
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On 2004-12-21 02:08, HandA wrote:
It dosent matter how long a sample is. If it's regionisable you have to pay the original copyright owner - in princible.
And no matter if you redo a song by playing all notes yourself it's still owned by the original copyright owner of the song. It's not the notes itself but the melody that are copyrighted!
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These answers are both true but there are different copyrights for the music and the actual recording. It is usualy alot cheaper to license the music compared to licensing the actual recording. Still, even that is usualy too expensive for a trance release ...
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Liminalis
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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 08:22
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-kind of off topic and on topic at the same time...
Did you know that someone owns the rights to the melody for HAPPY BIRTHDAY!?! Every time you hear it on tv or in a movie someone gets paid for that!!!
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Andy
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 01:37
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Jikkenteki
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 02:09
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On 2004-12-21 01:27, basilisk wrote:
Now if you totally remake a song with your own instruments, does it matter? Are the notes copywritten or what?
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There are two different aspects of any given piece of released music that are covered by copyrights. The first is for the actual sound recording. The label usually owns these rights and thus you are usually dealing with paying another label the for the rights to use the audio when you want to sample something.
The second is for the musical composition, that is the actual progression of notes, chords, drumbeats, etc. Usually the artist maintains control of these, which is why you occasionally see cases of bands wanting to remaster some of their older material, but not being able to get the rights to do it from their own label, so to work around this, they just rerecord everything from scratch. In the US you can register both of these rights at the same time, but they are technically different.
As for "Happy Birthday", yes, one of the major movie studios owns the rights to it, so only movies released by that studio or its subsidaries use that song. The rest tend to opt for "For he's a jolly good fellow" or just not have any singing at a party.
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