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Possibilty to shut down or start dreams

psyraal
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Posted : Apr 7, 2011 22:13:44
This started to happen to me a few days ago, where i go to sleep, find myself "awaken" in some sort of an introducting dream, and i'm in a super large dark room, with only a table and a man which is like he's not even there, and then i have the possibility to start a dream, which later i can't fuckin remember, or to awake from my sleep, tried both options, both worked, this is great!

but what does this mean? somethin about control?           
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Yidam
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 20:30
like that moment you wake up just in time to start the day nice and early, but then you decide let me sleep a bit more and whoosh.

then you wake up after the wild ride an hour later not knowing what the heck happened.

?
psyraal
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Posted : Apr 8, 2011 21:53
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On 2011-04-08 20:30, Yidam wrote:
like that moment you wake up just in time to start the day nice and early, but then you decide let me sleep a bit more and whoosh.

then you wake up after the wild ride an hour later not knowing what the heck happened.

?




no, i mean i fall asleep, i dream of that i described above, and if i want (in the dream) i can either stop and wake up, or i can enter a dream           
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minus
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 01:14
its called self induced hypnosis
seriosly speaking, i dont know what you are asking. are u asking something?
psyraal
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 01:56
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On 2011-04-09 01:14, minus wrote:
its called self induced hypnosis
seriosly speaking, i dont know what you are asking. are u asking something?



i was asking if it means something? the chance to start or end something           
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Yidam
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 09:21
it just means you're lucid dreaming, awareness of the dream is the first big step. there are a lot of resources online and books for methods to take this further (if you want to)
Pauldo
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 03:23
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On 2011-04-08 20:30, Yidam wrote:
like that moment you wake up just in time to start the day nice and early, but then you decide let me sleep a bit more and whoosh.

then you wake up after the wild ride an hour later not knowing what the heck happened.

?




Wake n' bake then back to bed for another hour or two... those def are some of my wildest dreams!
minus
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 04:49
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On 2011-04-09 01:56, NychroLogic wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 01:14, minus wrote:
its called self induced hypnosis
seriosly speaking, i dont know what you are asking. are u asking something?



i was asking if it means something? the chance to start or end something



maybe it does mean something, but trust me, no one can tell you what it means, only one person can, and that person is YOU! for each his own.
psyraal
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 12:27
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On 2011-04-11 04:49, minus wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 01:56, NychroLogic wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 01:14, minus wrote:
its called self induced hypnosis
seriosly speaking, i dont know what you are asking. are u asking something?



i was asking if it means something? the chance to start or end something



maybe it does mean something, but trust me, no one can tell you what it means, only one person can, and that person is YOU! for each his own.




yes i know, but thank you           
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moki
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Posted : Jun 12, 2011 00:10
yes this means a lot. it means that you have a choise to chose a dream that you can remember.
this phenomenon with dreaming within the dreaming is really weird. i am having it in the last year very intensely, and earlier it was not the case. it is just connected to more freedom and bigger choise if you can actually dream within the dream. the difficult part is to dream a horror dream and to never awake. my god, this is a hard time, especially if you sleep alone for longer time and you never know did you awake this time...

and the chaise and run never ends. such dreams..dont know if it is a disadvantage not to remember the fucking dream. i never have the "chance" not to remember it.
psyraal
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 02:12
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On 2011-06-12 00:10, moki wrote:
yes this means a lot. it means that you have a choise to chose a dream that you can remember.
this phenomenon with dreaming within the dreaming is really weird. i am having it in the last year very intensely, and earlier it was not the case. it is just connected to more freedom and bigger choise if you can actually dream within the dream. the difficult part is to dream a horror dream and to never awake. my god, this is a hard time, especially if you sleep alone for longer time and you never know did you awake this time...

and the chaise and run never ends. such dreams..dont know if it is a disadvantage not to remember the fucking dream. i never have the "chance" not to remember it.




Last night i was dreaming and then all of the sudden my dream started to fade away, and i, consciously knowing, started talking, because i was talking in my dream.
It was some sort of transition from asleep to the awake state, very weird, i was really just dreaming and i started talking to keep up to the dream's developments and i was slowly getting awaked. So fucking strange!           
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moki
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 12:06
yes, it is a weird thing. check this also http://forum.isratrance.com/lucid-dreaming/ . it is nearer to what you describe.

to me lucid dreaming is kind of the most usual thing i could experience in the night. but the phenomenon that i mentioned above goes beyond my definitions of lucid dreaming. it is dreaming within the dreaming with many possibilities to start and shut down the dream and come into another dream. earlier i had only one kind of door, or no doors at all. i was just immediately in the lucid dream. now, i go through dream after dream after dream to actually come to where the serious dream takes part.
i must wake up through three different doorts, or more, to actually come to normal. which i am sure i am dreaming too but it is another philosophical question.

the tricky part is that i am absolutely sure i woke up after a dream. then i walk on in the room , on the street, everything looks normal and very suddenly i wake up again! and i am still in my bed.

these things , as usually any practise like this, is very easy to be discussed theoretically, at least i know hundreds of people who do it on theory, write things, go to congresses. but to really experiece it, is a totally different thing. as anything connected to metaphysic, occultism, magic, and overnatural things.
moki
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 12:58
p.s. another important thing to add. this last dream on the last level after going through numerous dreams within the first dream: it is usually always the same dream to me. it is always chaise and run. only the situation and circamstances change - those who chaise, the place and time it happens.

and after i wake up on the first level, i always think, oh my god, i am so happy i just woke up from this nightmare. and i know i just dreamed but i am in the illusion of being awake now. as a matter of fact i am not and still dream. and very suddenly i wake up again, or the chaiser comes to me in the new dream too and the chaising goes on. it is sometimes connected to a war situation, but it is very ofter a dream of a sexual nature where i am chaised. hm, the complexity of dreams never disappoints me.
psyraal
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 14:39
That has happened to me too, having a bad dream inside a 'regular' dream, i woke up happy from the bad dream to the 'regular' one because the nightmare finally had stopped, still, i was in the normal dreaming stage, but usually when i wake up from the bad dream to the normal one, i can make it out of the normal dream too, waking up if i want to. Weird, but a good weird i think.           
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jabba


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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 16:11
The only fun thing wud be to create a dream on will. start/stop may have a button/trigger.

cheers            To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;)
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