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___liranzlod
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Posted : Sep 6, 2001 20:39:38
hi,
look guys, i have nothing against you, on the contrary, i need people like you so the trance scene in israel can continue.
second, i would like to get some more information about the idea of using drugs like some people said here, why does someone has to use drugs if we have the trance music? i heard a lot of shit that you can hear the music better or you suddenlly have another feelings you haven't had in your life,  you see guys, i just don't want you to get hurt, that's all. someone said here that anybody can do whatever he wants, but there's a law which says that you have to help other people when he is in trouble,, and that's what i'm doing. i'm not blaming you, i blame people like tsuyoshi or guy sebbag who said last year that it is o.k to use drugs sometime.
as for the parties, i would never be in a trance party where i know people will use drugs, for me, such people destroy the trance music by just listening to this music, that's why i go only to parties where they don't play trance cause it's too important for me, really, the trance it's like a culture for me.
third, you sound a bit angry, so i'm very sorry if i am the cause for that.
shahar, i would like to know more from you about my theory about trance music, when you said you don't use drugs i understand that i can talk with you, so please, i will appreciate if you write something.
the last one, i mentioned the problems with the police and no one said anything about it, tell me people, why do you think the police shut your parties down everytime? isn't that a good reason why you should stop using drugs and moreover, telling others also to stop using drugs, please understand, i'm doing it only for you and for the trance music.

please, if someone has questions or anything feel free to ask me, as an answer to someone who reply me here : THE AWARENESS OF BEING IN A TRANCE MOOD, MAKES THE PEOPLE BECOME MORE SENSITIVE AND AWARE, FOR THEMSELVES , THEIE SURROUNDING , THE CROSSWORLD OF HUMANITY AND THE NEEDS OF THE PLANET, WITH THAT AWARENESS COMES UNDERSTANDING AND COMPPASION, THAT IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR AND THE TRUE T.R.A.N.C.E SPIRIT.
shalom
___Banzi
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Posted : Sep 6, 2001 20:54:53
Liran, from your words i understand you are naive, there are some things u don't really know (like drugs for this matter), so don't judge it or ppl using it.. u say u can talk with shahar, why? cuz he's sachi? come on man.. we all here can b called trancers and the fact some of us here use drugs doesn't mean our minds r wrecked and u can't talk with us, whoever brainwashed u like this did a nasty job... music is an individual thing, and if a person can reach a trance state with drugs more easyly then good for him! try to open your mind.. and u can't really say u consider this music as culture if u don't go to parties and only talk about guy sabbag and miko and har-el.. there are more talented artists in this scene! i think u try to show us your point of view but u r not willing to open up to others... think about it man :)

Respect :)
___liranzlod
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Posted : Sep 6, 2001 21:57:24
to BEN-G:

i was brainwashed by the trance music.

o.k, so i think that we have some bad energy here, and i think that we should calm down al little bit. i have nothing against you, as i said, i'm doing it only for you and the trance music.
as for shahar, he was the only one who oppossed the drugs ( in his letter ), so that's what made me think that he has some sense in his head and maybe knows that what i'm saying is true, i hope so.
third, why are we talking so mauch? maybe we should do a party? guyshanti made a party only for the forum people, so maybe he can do it again?, i would like to come to this party, maybe i'm wrong and if so, i should do something about it.
what about the chat in this site? when is it gonna work? maybe we can have a day where we will have a conversation on the IRC, it should be nice and more comfortable.

as for miko and har-el, well, these guys are really something, i mean, i also listen to asia 2001, astral, kaaya and many others, but such a nice trance like they do, i can't find it anywhere. true, tsoyoshi, ubar tmar, mark allen and many others are more talented than these guys.
btw, i would like you to hear some tracks from mp3.com, they are very good,

buddhagray - saintbleeping
portamento - argon, new breed
sral - sine fx
goahead - goahead

sorry if i made someone mad, i didn't mean that.

liran
___shahar
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 08:40:10
Liran, you should make an effort to talk to people and not to images of them and conceptions you have in your biased mind.
You shouldn't categorize people, certainly not but the ways they choose to change their chemical balance in their body.
It is sad, as I see it, when people tell others that something they're doing is wrong without knowing enough about it.
And I still suggest you go to some good party with an open mind, and instead of thinking how many people there are high and how many are not- just dive into the music and trance it up.
Anyway, good weekend all!
___liranzlod
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 13:05:57
o.k, shahar,do you have to get burned alive in order to know that it's hurt? of course not, so are the drugs, me and you don't need to try them to know that they are wrong. sure, you have the option to choose and it's fine with me, but i'm trying to explain you why it is so dangerous.
did any of you saw the programm about "RAVE" in the science channel?
it's my duty, as a trancer, to show you the right way to get into trance.
why do you think we call it "TRANCE MUSIC"? because it should bring your mind into a trance vibe, or feeling. that's what i mean by loving the trance and any other music, why do you need drugs in order to enjoy the music? isn't it enough? if you need help to enjoy your music than something is wrong with you, you probably does not like the music as you say.
as for the reason why i don't attend the parties is that i listen to trance music many hours a day for the last 10 years (each day) and that gives me the trance feeling, i told you, i would never attend a party where i know that people destroy that music.
what kind of person will disagree with me? who has the guts to say without a shame that he is using drugs?
why do you think that in 99.9% of the world the people outlaw the drugs? all the scientists say it's bad for health, and then people like you say it's o.k, so who is wrong?

nobody has yet answer me about my question regarding to the police, why do you think they shut down your parties? don't you think we should do something about it?

i'm not angry, but i'm sad to see you destroy your body and soul for nothing.

see you,
liran    
___Banzi
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 15:41:04
I am using drugs.  //saying without shame ;)

:P

come on liran.. u mix two different things, drugs and trance.. and what if i'll tell u i use drugs but i never use them at parties? what will b your excuse then??
i don't see myself different from ppl that use drugs in parties or from any other group of ppl for this matter.. trance is also about equality, so don't act like u r superiour than the drug using community.. the fact that u listen to this music for 10 years doesn't make you all that, i listen to it too for about 10 years now, it's also a very important part of my life and it even builds my lifestyle and behaviour, but u don't see me bitching about the drugs and that.. i enjoy the music and the parties as much as i can.. so try and have fun, take it easy and remember this- many ppl here know much about trance and appriciate the music, u r not the only 1, so become 1 of us instead of arguing all the time man.. :)

Respect :)
___liranzlod
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 16:27:38
to ben-g :
sababa, i'll respect your request, though i still think you're wrong. i did anything i can to help, but it seems that you will have to find the answer alone, and i'm very sorry for that.

so, you want to talk about trance music, you said you have been listening for 10 years, what was your first cassette or cd?
i remember when i first got my first tracks it was like a shock, i haven't heard such a music before, then, after maybe half year later i gave my music to someone who was a dj and he really liked this music so we decided to have a party and we went to the mayor and he arranged us a stage in the center of lod where all the people used to hung out, and we did the party but only few people came, i think they were affraid of that music. as far as i know, this was the first public trance party in lod. after that, we began hearing trance music all over the city.
that's about it, send me back something, and i hope you're not angry about me,
peace man
liran
___Banzi
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 16:37:38
Never angry man :)
I'll tell u the truth- i don't remember what was my first casset... but i do remember when i got a cd player i bought my 1st cd- transwave-helium, i had many cassets b4 that with very old music (trance side of the moon etc.), but i really can't remember the 1st. i moved on from that trance style man, i still like it and respect it but i like to listen to more fresh tunes now :)
___liranzlod
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 19:22:12
what's up ben?
i either can't remember my first cassette, though i have 'til now a very old casette which i recently found it's name( psysex gave the name) , it is called "transformtion 1", it came out in 92.
as for that, i best like the old trance, like power source, art of trance, asia 2001, har-el and some others, i think that ofer dikovsky and xerox and these guys really destroy the trance music, but that's what i think.
say, did you hear ella gootman's radio program? it was few years ago and i used to record all the tracks she put there, and after 2 years i had like
a mountain of cassettes, and these were the tracks i liked. do you have some old stuff?
btw, did you saw the list of tracks can be downloaded from mp3.com that i gave here ? these are really good tracks.
talk to me man,
bye.
liran
___shahar
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 19:30:55
Liran, please speak for yourself only, OK? :-)

___oded_k
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 19:41:13
Liran  - Are you from Al-Sam or something ;)
Why are you trying to educate everyone?
Like someone said, we are all grown people here who can decide for ourselves.
We saw enough of the commercials (are you willing to participate in the expiriment? are you willing to participate in the expiriment? are you willing to participate in the expiriment?... and so on...)
What I'm trying to say is that I don't think you'll be able to change anybody's mind about this subject here in the forum.
And one last thing - Relax a bit man... chill out... smoke a joint? (just kidding)
___liranzlod
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 21:39:13
what are you talking about shahar? why should i spaek for myself? and for the guy who said that he is a grownup, i'm not angry at you, i'm just pity for you 'cause i know what will be the end for you, but as i said to ben-g, i will stop saying that and you will have to find the answer by yourself.
i'm not from el-sam or something.
btw, no one has yet answered me about my police question, what do you think we should do about this problem? i think that stop bringing drugs to parties is the answer, but i would like to here your suggestion, maybe you're smarter than me.
you think i don't want to attend the parties? of course i do, but because people like you, i can't. how can i relax when someone like you ruins my music? from where did you get the idea that trance is connected with those fukin' drugs?
you think that what MFG and tsuyoshi do is right?
i'm sorry man, you are wrong.
i'm trying to help you but it seem that you don't want my help, but it's your own life.

peace man,
"i believe in the powder of america natives"

liran
___Banzi
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Posted : Sep 7, 2001 23:13:12
Liran, i'm really tierd from this discussion but i have to understand what u mean... i don't wanna just say ok and shut up.. think about this- this music you like and call culture many times was created under the insperation of drugs.. what do u say about that?? i also wanted to tell you about your police question- get real man, trance is connected with drugs no matter what you say, you can't stop ppl from bringing drugs to parties.. and even if u could- it's too late.. this scene has its reputation already.. nobody can change it now, police will always be all over it.

about old cassets- i had tons of 'em, many were lost, some i still have, i don't really remember.. i also like the new trance music and i don't stay stuck in one position.. try to open your mind to new music man.(and to other things ;))
___bilbobagginz
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Posted : Sep 8, 2001 02:30:18
Liran.
check the pm please.
thanx.

___mascalita
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Posted : Sep 8, 2001 15:59:39
liran, about the police - parties at clubs r loaded with drugs and still nobody close them.

u say people who use drugs destroy parties for u. what about the artists who make the music u listen to at home? i don't think they r all sachi.

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