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PoM
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Posted : Aug 27, 2013 16:12
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personaly guys i would never get a x desk.. it s very close to itb sound from the comparaison i heard..one of the avantage of a console is to get loads of eqs and preamps for not much cash and x desk don't have any if i m right? it s also very clean sounding.. for me console it s better to go for old stuff but it need maintenance and it make it expensive..
some of the modern expensive allen heath seems to have good rep but never tried one..
little oram mixers (similar to some trident i think ) sound great..but it s expensive and it seems the company is horrible for support ,but for sound from what i heard i would go for this for a console that sell new
you could also look for 2 racked channels of good consoles.
one of the cheapest way for color is to go tape machine but a pain |
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klippel
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Posted : Aug 28, 2013 17:19
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good info on here mates, cheers for that.
about the xdesk. it might be expensive, but it makes sure you will not lose quality along the way while mixing. i have also looked at the allen heath zed r16 but i am not sure it the converters and board will have you loose sonic quality.
i know mojo comes from eq mainly on consoles.
but which 8 channel console that can be bought new (or relatively new) is there which is acceptable in price (ie not more than say 2-3k)?
i guess you have a point about the price thing in general. if you want transparency and mojo you can only use expensive stuff.
vintage might deliver colour but is often blurred/muddy in sound.
i am not a particular fan of tape for electronic music to be honest, its quite a drastic not overall positive effect imho. cool for "real instrument" music but a bit weird for synthesized music.
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woodster77
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Posted : Aug 28, 2013 19:36
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i got an old speaker and a mike i use to undigital my stuff
cheep as fuck and great and gives you two analoge gain stages so its really wide ranging for sweetspots
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Babaluma
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Posted : Aug 29, 2013 10:30
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good info on here mates, cheers for that.
vintage might deliver colour but is often blurred/muddy in sound.
i am not a particular fan of tape for electronic music to be honest, its quite a drastic not overall positive effect imho. cool for "real instrument" music but a bit weird for synthesized music. |
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One person's "blurred/muddy" is another person's "colour".  On the other hand, really great vintage gear will hopefully give you the required colour without sounding blurred or muddy. Don't forget gain staging with this stuff. Beauty with all discreet analogue gear is that you can hit different parts of the chain at different levels, usually going from extremely transparent (but euphonically different), to all out dirt, and anywhere in between!
tape can sound INCREDIBLE with synthesiser/electronic music. just think of Kraftwerk etc.
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Taisto
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Posted : Aug 29, 2013 11:13
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Hey Babaluma,
who is the guy you talk about before, who repairs vintage gear. Does he have website, or do he sell the repaired gear somewhere?
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Babaluma
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Posted : Aug 29, 2013 14:35
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 29, 2013 16:59
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One person's "blurred/muddy" is another person's "colour".
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+1 it s so personal , it s like choosing a pair of monitors ...
if you go with modern highend stuff you can t really go wrong it will be quality..but really expensive and not sure you will get what you are after with just one box..more a few ones i guess (comp and eq maybe..)
if you find what help you to get the sound you are really after it will make you feel so satisifed it feel really good that it worth all the dollars imo
for your aplication i think you need more a insert on your master bus and start mixing with it so you will have itb workflow , a friend that love analog stuff have a ubk fatso and api 2500 like this..sound good to me but tastes.. |
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Babaluma
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Posted : Aug 29, 2013 22:32
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On 2013-08-29 11:13, Taisto wrote:
Hey Babaluma,
who is the guy you talk about before, who repairs vintage gear. Does he have website, or do he sell the repaired gear somewhere?
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talked to my friend today, his friend (who buys up vintage gear and reconditions/repairs/re-houses it for use with modern studios) is just some guy in the countryside in italy somewhere, no website, but anyway he invited to go with him next time he visits the dude, so i should have some more info in a month or two!
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Taisto
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Posted : Aug 30, 2013 11:28
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Ok, thanks for your input Babaluma. Sounds interesting, go for it! And let us know what this mysterious guy is up to 
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 8, 2013 18:03
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On 2013-08-28 19:36, woodster77 wrote:
i got an old speaker and a mike i use to undigital my stuff
cheep as fuck and great and gives you two analoge gain stages so its really wide ranging for sweetspots
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reamping might be good solution indeed,with a good sounding amp/speaker then a good preamp might make sense to re record. i tried it once with decent result on a softi but didn t experiment much..(with a warm old hifi amp with analog eq on it and good speaker),workflow is not easy though.. |
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 8, 2013 18:13
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so guys about the topic , did you make more research?
if you want i run a small loop of your track into culture vulture just for testing but best would be to start mixing with it on the master to compensate offcourse
a thermionic phoenix is used exaclty for what your looking for by mastering engeinners.. but it cost a lot |
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 9, 2013 18:36
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Babaluma did you try the fcs p3s me comp? i m looking for new stereo piece and really intrested into it , look like a good piece for my needs as it can be clean and a little colored but wondering if it s not too subbtle when recording synths and looking to add a little gloss |
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Babaluma
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 09:37
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 10, 2013 11:23
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need something i can use later when i get a proper room for mastering so this could be a great choice ,right now i need mostly tracking/mixing comp , i m sure it s great there too but maybe a little too clean..
api 2500 is a other candidat i could get it cheaper second hand but afraid it s a little too colored for beeing usefull on most mastering project..
thanks for mentioning titan , never heard about this one gonna check..
a vari mu could be a great option but price..
i wonder how the knif lumi comp would work , i m sure it s great caractere maybe too much.. |
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Babaluma
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Posted : Sep 11, 2013 00:04
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