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Yuli
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 21:13
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On 2003-12-15 02:49, DETOX wrote:
Albums sell more than compilations by the way.
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thats a stupid truth that make a big inflation on a market. never got why its work this way but i guess its same reasons as ppl prefer pay double payment and bring fake 1 hour live act and not half price good dj. |
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Well Zombi maybe it happens because we are those that write the music that u play.. and if we wont perform and all the music is downloaded anyway, then we have to find a normal dayjob and forget about making music.. Maybe it is U that has to start making music? and then u will understand the amount of time and powers one has to invest in it? A little more I believe than choose your tunes for a gig / set / following month..
Plus, ofcourse artist album !! sometimes !! has some point or flow that most of the comps lack.. and it is for sure more feeling like unity / forged together than any comp
just a point
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nobody_3
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 21:40
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I thought that compilations sold more than artists albums?
That's what i have been told by labels and it kind of made sense to me since I think that most people today want the "hits" and dont really want to buy a artist album where diversity is the keyword. But maybe I am wrong? I do know that some bands sell more than most compilations and I believe it's because those bands tend to write albums with not that big diversity (I mean diversity in bpm and style). But of course there are exceptions... But somehow I do still believe that if we look at the overall sale then the compilations win quite big !
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Yuli
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 21:48
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Well the albums sell better in average me thinks. As long as u make the comparison in the right way ( compare full on comps with full on albums and proggy comps with proggy albums ) then the artist of the genre sells more ( not much more tho ) then the compilation from the same genre
I find it very good actually, cuz it leaves to believe that still the art of the music counts a little bit and not only BOOM TSSSSSSS BOOM TSSSSS
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Chaka Laka
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 21:57
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i always prefered artist albums as well . when u buy an artist album imho u get way more then just a music - u get artists ideas , his unique style , his own sound way reacher then in comps. Some comps are very good , but generally after time being they all fade away from my memory , and artists album doesn't , even if it wasn't smth special at least i remember how it was - good , bad , the general evaluation of artist's work. so this statistic don't really suprise me 
on the other hand i think djs more prefer comps , comps are the good place to put tracks that do the job straight away ..
For the topic itself , it's an interesting statistics but i'm not sure the number of sold cds may reflect all trance listeners point of view , too small ;(
hopefully i'll soon start contributing to this number !
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nobody_3
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 22:02
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If it's true that artist albums sell better then I am very happy. I have always had a hate/love relationship to compilations because I feel they started a unessesary competition with the artists albums and only made "Hit and gone" music exposed to teh masses. But at the same time they were nessesary to be on as an artist to make a living out of the music. This was of course quite a while back and today they are a reality more than ever. But I still see them as something that should support artist CD's instead of competing with the artist albums. So maybe they finally play their, in my opinion, rightfull role as supporting artist album?
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Chaka Laka
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 22:17
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well , putting a track first on a compilation and only afterwords on an artist album , and that's commonly the case , doesn't help to sell more of the last.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Dec 16, 2003 22:30
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Believe me when commercialised compilations saw the "day of light" in the end of the 80's (as far as I remember that was the time) they quite fast made a huge cut in artist album sales in all parts of the music industry. Suddently people could get 15-20 tracks from 15 different artists... all the biggest hits!
And people DID buy compilations more than artists albums. I am not really sure if it continued like that and how long but it's a fact that many people prefer to but compilations over artist albums. I am not the one to say if it's good or bad but personally I prefer artist albums.
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Zombi
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Posted : Dec 17, 2003 23:16
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well, i puted a big thing into litlle post and was not enough explaining my point. i want to say next few things - i like great artist albums, the ones that is a peak of a career time, albums that come after some time of releasing a quality stuff on different compilation, the albums that change the wave and build the castles of our dreams.
in my opinion psy trance market too full with albums that come from too unexpirienced artists and more importent - unexpirienced labels that run after something that is not exist too much - a realy regreshing producer that can make a long lenth player medium that full with mature complex music.
look at the club (commerzial in therms of a label management) market, labels very very slow on releasing a labums before they get worlwide responding from a crowd that have to meet new sounds on a compilations, carrefully selected by expirienced ppl who "know" and make a "next thing". i can see how circulation or deep dish release a album, after ALL know them, but i hardly can see some label will release a album of artist that juts a newcomer, even if he is realy good. i know Yuli u like Guy Gerber, he gonna release a album in NY city soon, its took a while for him and still ppl talk about it like a sensation.
im not against artist albums in any way, i just think that too much of it realy take a attention of many ppl and the realy good ones sometimes just dive deep in a market ocean before they get a attention and money of course, its cause some troubles, inflation in one word.
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Dovla
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Posted : Dec 17, 2003 23:51
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well I'm only guessing but to me it seems more logical that compils are sold better than albums coz they are more meant for djs while an album is usually something that gives you a special story to listen to at home (least it used to be)...
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Yuli
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Posted : Dec 17, 2003 23:58
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On 2003-12-17 23:16, Zombi wrote:
in my opinion psy trance market too full with albums that come from too unexpirienced artists and more importent - unexpirienced labels that run after something that is not exist too much - a realy regreshing producer that can make a long lenth player medium that full with mature complex music.
look at the club (commerzial in therms of a label management) market, labels very very slow on releasing a labums before they get worlwide responding from a crowd that have to meet new sounds on a compilations, carrefully selected by expirienced ppl who "know" and make a "next thing". i can see how circulation or deep dish release a album, after ALL know them, but i hardly can see some label will release a album of artist that juts a newcomer, even if he is realy good. i know Yuli u like Guy Gerber, he gonna release a album in NY city soon, its took a while for him and still ppl talk about it like a sensation.
im not against artist albums in any way, i just think that too much of it realy take a attention of many ppl and the realy good ones sometimes just dive deep in a market ocean before they get a attention and money of course, its cause some troubles, inflation in one word.
cheers.
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Zombi couldnt agree more with this and wish a lot of luck to Guy Gerber, he is truly tallented and a hard working artist.
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Mike A
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Posted : Dec 18, 2003 00:22
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Dovla, dj's download their music and trade it. they don't buy it. Unfortunately.
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Dovla
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Posted : Dec 18, 2003 00:37
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I know but I still think they buy more than your everyday trance listener
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Mike A
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Posted : Dec 18, 2003 00:39
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Not very hard, since the everyday trance listener buys nothing 
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dj jaimz
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Posted : Dec 18, 2003 00:47
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As far as I'm aware..
The majority of psytrance releases sell between 1000 and 2000 copies. 2000 is very good for a psytrance release. Anything on 3D Vision, TIP World, Twisted, Yoyo/BNE or Hommega has a chance at doing a lot better, but most other labels struggle to break 2000 with a normal release. |
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Zombi
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Posted : Dec 18, 2003 00:48
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On 2003-12-18 00:22, Mike A wrote:
Dovla, dj's download their music and trade it. they don't buy it. Unfortunately.
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u call this ppl "djs" ??
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