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no festivals this summer?

karnaf
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Posted : Aug 4, 2002 21:56
Well neoron, I think that's exactly what zio meant.

When was the last time 10,000 ppl came to a festival in this country? Do you know how much it costs to make a festival like that (sound, djs + groups, security, promotion, etc, etc, etc.) ?

I can clearly understand why no one wants to do a festival here Sad, but true.




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neoron


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Posted : Aug 5, 2002 01:46
karnaf my friend - check arround - i allready did that count ( djs , security, pa x 8 sound system , medical help , fire extinguishers , emergency exits ( in nature )!!! , authorizations ( that alone 10000 shekel ) , a nearby lowyer , promotion , co producers , sponsers etc etc = ~ 120000 nis = 24000$
( 1,000,000 nis after charging only 100 nis from 10,000 ppl , ~ 50,000 bottles of water = 500,000 nis etc etc
if you are ready to make that kind of money - u must be willing to spend the above sum.
if u want it ready to run - ill give it to you.
if i had the time - i would have done it myself and bring some life to our land.

[ This Message was edited by: neoron on 2002-08-05 01:46 ]

[ This Message was edited by: neoron on 2002-08-05 01:48 ]
Zombi
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Posted : Aug 5, 2002 14:30
neuron, sorry to say ya your count is tooo optimistic.. 30 artists from the abroad will cost u more than "24000 $".. man, u live in illusions..           Believe your soul !
Zombi
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Posted : Aug 5, 2002 14:31
hah, and one more - why need ya pay to sponsors ?? they put their money for u, not u for them.. thats "sponsors" - mean ppl who ready give ya some money to work with..


[ This Message was edited by: Zombi Cocktail on 2002-08-05 14:33 ]          Believe your soul !
neoron


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Posted : Aug 10, 2002 22:00
zomby coctail
if u were to properly read my reply - ull see i didnt even count in the dj's costs - their price varies my friend - according to how close they are to u!
d.j's who in the past stayed with friends in haifa would love to come at a minimal cost - riktam and banzi , shultz etc etc
and as 4 israeli dj's - i know 4 shure that some of our best dj's are praying 4 such an evevt to happen
therefore - its not my illusions - its how much u need to complete - and moving back up to 7 yrs - wont be easy , so maybe u shuld give it more affort?
AGMIS
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Posted : Aug 14, 2002 04:34
forget about cost, production or what ever it is your talking about. just look at our soocer league and you will understand why you cant have a festival like that. teams wont come and play here.

security my friend, security.

do you really think that an artist will come to such a big event in a time like this? who would want to???? remember why the red hot chili pepers cancelld? didnt you notice that artists as it is dont even come to small (1000) parties, not to say big ones like you are talking about. do you remember two years ago every big name came to play in israel. now it is really hard because they are afraid-i know because i talked to a few, and i am sure you will agree.

i really dont want to go into politics because this is not the place but the only thing that is keeping this amzing country of ours from having such an event is security. if there was peace you would have 10 festivals--i pesonally would through one.

peace.           I never apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am. Homer J. Simpson
neoron


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Posted : Aug 15, 2002 21:26
agmis - that i will accept - the secutiy hazards r realy big , and if thats whats keeping us - what to do?
AGMIS
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Posted : Aug 16, 2002 03:52
what to do???

my friend, if i had the answer to that one we would all be screaming in joy at the biggest rave in the history of the world.


and im DJing

LOL
          I never apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am. Homer J. Simpson
neoron


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Posted : Aug 17, 2002 22:18
" what to do ? " is a retorical question saying that nothing can be done ( in indu trevellers language ).
( usually answered by " katmandu " ) (-;
AGMIS
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Posted : Aug 18, 2002 04:51
im not saying that nothing can be done. im just saying that i dont have the answer.           I never apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am. Homer J. Simpson
DETOX
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Posted : Aug 18, 2002 10:10
Neoron you think you can organise a festival with just 24000 dollars?
Man sorry to say that but it seems to me that you either dont know how to count or you dont have any clue about how to organise a party or a festival.
The 24000 dollars that you mentioned are just the expenses for 30 artists airway tickets,food,drinks,accomodation and some small extra expenses that might occure.
All these money just to transport,feed and accomodate all these artists.Imagine how much the cost will be including their payments.....
Just to give you some clues i will inform you that an average or good artist gets at least 750 dollars for just a dj set,offcourse big names like Tristan,Skazi,Absolum and the likes wont settle for less than 1500 dollars for a dj set.And think that if you dont have big names you wont have a big crowd and also you cant just have dj sets,you must have some artists performing live and some of them have to be big names,just try and book Deedrah/Synthetic,GMS,Talamasca or X Dream for a live pa and then you will see what i mean.
You can more easily spend 24000 dollars for buying hamburgers rather than having a trance festival.
Massive respect           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
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