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roakanan
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Posted : Jul 7, 2011 14:36:53
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Hi Folks ,
i m just about to finish my studio ,and i m gonna treat acoustic really good ...
i ve already have a pair of Genelec 8010a ,witch are quite small ,and very week in low end definition .
what would you advise me ;
-to get a sub from genelec ...worth 1200 $
-to get different monitors with lower end definition for same budget .
thanks
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roakanan
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Posted : Jul 7, 2011 14:38
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ps ;my room is 3m x 4m ,in case would be to consider for advises .
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orange
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Posted : Jul 7, 2011 21:15
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 8, 2011 00:53
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if you have money to upgrade monitors might be the thing to do ,depends if you like the sound of the genelec and if u get mix that translate with them. |
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Larrikin
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Posted : Jul 8, 2011 04:42
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Monib
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Posted : Jul 8, 2011 20:37
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Upgrade, then you can use your Genelec as a secondary setup to make sure your mixes are OK. If you get a sub, it'll be harder to setup and you won't have any backups. |
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roakanan
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Posted : Jul 9, 2011 07:47
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thanks !!
ok so i think that s what i should do ...upgrade
PoM...no my mixes don't translate good at all /o/
actually i had a view on the
-Dynaudio BM6AMkII 1300$(BM6A=1700$!)
and-Adam A7X 1400$(the most attractive rigth now )
as mentioned by Orange the focal cms 65 1600$
are tasty too ...but expensive
it's a little over what i wanted to pay for the monitors . all those monitors also exist in smaller/cheaper ...hum .what are your toughts on that ;all those models have a smaller-cheaper sister ....worth pulling the extra 400 $ for 3x4 m room ???
the thing is ....where i live i can t ear them before buying .have to order from the net ...so i ll make my definitive choice from advices i'm getting from you guys .
thanks a lot ..
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 10, 2011 15:11
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i think the focal are more expensive in usa with the euro beeing strong not sure it s a good deal but if you can try bm6a and the adam ,i think you can t really go wrong in that price range..pick a pair you like the sound, learn it inside out..
there is genelec too, never used them but i would love to try them,the 8040a and there is probably lot of other great monitors from less known brands.. |
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roakanan
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Posted : Jul 11, 2011 07:24
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Thanks PoM but as i just posted ,i can't listen to them before buying ,or i' ll need to buy a plane ticket too ...
i have already Genelec 8030 A ,(sorry type the wrong ref in my first post) .
they are quite small ,but impressive ....when i bought them i was looking for really close monitors to use wherever i could work (untreated rooms ) that i could carry easy .really poor in bass tho but amazing mid and high clarity .
now i m just finishing my new homestudio ,and i need bigger speakers .and of course more definition in lows .
i also still have my first ever monitors ;Alesis Mk1 ....and they suck /o/
it seems that those Focal would be a good choice ...
i ve read weard posts about Adam A7 lack off low end ,so i don't want the same kind of trouble i already have with my Genelecs .
regarding the Dynaudio ,also ppl say they colour too much the sound .
not read anything rude about the Focal cms 65 and they said by many to have a very good definition in the bass ....
i d like some more comments regarding those Dynaudio bm6A serie and differences soundwise between the regular one and the MKII .anyone knows ???
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 11, 2011 19:45
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the adam a7 have not much low end but they corected this with the new X serie it seems.. but not sure if it s good low end never used them it s just what i read here and there... it seems there is some issu with the port making some noise too.
bm6a and mk2 i used both can t really tell it was not in same room..got good mix on both dunno wich one better, my friend say mk2 maybe a bit better he used both now for years... on the net many say mk1 better..i guess it s tate ,1700 dollar not a bad price so i think i would get the mk1 at tha price, here they cost 2000 euro almost like focal twins.
the room still what matter the most, i have used bm6a in a small shity room at a friend ,trying different place and it was impossible to get a good low end(and usually their low end is good and translate great) ,my friend ended up stoping using them and mix on his beyer headphone, mix were way better balanced .
cms65 are good but the sound is not very impressive but they get the job done.. i bought them without trying them first ,when i got them i listened musics to break them in i thought to send them back.. then i tryed a mix great translation kept them. in my room i think the low end start to fade at around 55/50 hz and i dont have much informations on the sub frequencies when the sub is bypassed , they dont have big low end but it s fast and tight (all this is a lot dependent of the room and place of monitors and listening position)
imo it s more about personal taste all capable of doing good mix .. give a try and send them back if you dont like, buy to a store that accept return . |
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supergroover
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Posted : Jul 11, 2011 20:17
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I have the bm6a mk1. The sound is pretty honest and really dry. But I guess that makes sure you work hard to get a good mix. Recommended! My mixes were alot better than with the previous monitors I had (mackie hr824).
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roakanan
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Posted : Jul 12, 2011 02:12
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thanks a lot ...
i ve found the mkII for 1300 $ here ;
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/490879-REG/Dynaudio_Acoustics_995_002211_BM6AMkII_150W_6_9.html
pretty tempting
but it sounds like mki better ,they also more expensive wich would go that way too .
Pom ,
you have both mki and focal cm65 ,am i right?
and rather go for the dynaudio ?
also,about positioning in the room any advises ???
actually i ve put my desk at aprox a tird of the room i m sitting near the middle of the room ,and my monitors are just at the back of my desk ,aprox 1m from the back wall .
i ve not started acoustic treatment but will be my next step for shure ....
again thanks /o/
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supergroover
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Posted : Jul 12, 2011 10:53
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Should be a good position. Best way to find out is to walk around the room and get a feel for how even the bass is. Change the position of the monitors until you have a place where the bass is most even.
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 12, 2011 18:57
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On 2011-07-12 02:12, roakanan wrote:
Pom ,
you have both mki and focal cm65 ,am i right?
and rather go for the dynaudio ?
also,about positioning in the room any advises ???
actually i ve put my desk at aprox a tird of the room i m sitting near the middle of the room ,and my monitors are just at the back of my desk ,aprox 1m from the back wall .
i ve not started acoustic treatment but will be my next step for shure ....
again thanks /o/
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i don t have both but i have used bm6a, i think in the low end they may be better than the focal,i have afraid with the cms you find them lacking a bit in the low end and you want some so...maybe get the bm6a and later sell your genelec if they become uselss , buy focal cms 50 or small adam like a7 ,they will contribute well to dynaudio sound but just with bm6a you can make already great mix.
dynaudio + adam or focal to get a bit more clarity in the mix,more modern clean sound = win for me just my experience..
focal solo6 might be worth checking too but a bit more expensive than your price range |
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roakanan
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Posted : Jul 12, 2011 20:18
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thanks for taking the time .
now i m going for the Bm6a .
i apreciate
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