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Kitnam
Mantik
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 12:57
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On 2004-04-14 12:34, deebug wrote:
there are 2 possibilities:
1. the psyscene could be professionally organized, commercial, static, boring, superficial
2. it could be also underground, dynamic, organic, multifaceted
actually the scene seems to combine the negative effects of both possibilities.
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yes, sadly to say...
also at so called "big labels" if you want to add hole-and-corner dealings & beguilement as a negative effect caused by blacksheeps in the scene (organizer/labels) from the artists-perspective..
the scene with the flok of blacksheeps...  |
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nobody4
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 13:05
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I tend to agree with EP (for once) on the A&R issue.
The process of selecting music for me can start from listening to an extract from a track, be it 3-4 minutes or the whole track with 'cuts' in the middle. As long as I have enough information to see whether there is anything to talk about its good for me as a perliminary listen.
If all is good, I contact the artist directly and request a fuller version so I can hear the whole creation - its a needed thing since I already got material that sounded good for 2-3 min' but after getting the full version was boring.
The important thing in a demo is that it can represent the musical creation and gives the reviewer a picture of the track. further material can be provided after the label side shows interest and deeper contact is established between label and artist.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:22
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On 2004-04-14 12:34, deebug wrote:
@elysium
respect to your work 10 years ago but i really wonder what you talk about a&r in this forum.
as i know in most cases the a&r, agent, manager and promoter is the same incompetent person in the psyscene.
cheers
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I am not sure I understand what your saying? Please enlighten me. Do you say that I am not allowed to have an opinion because I haven't release anything since 2002 (10 years ago according to you) ? Or did I just misunderstand your intention?  |
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nobody_3
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:26
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And all those innocent people that sit hours after hours, days after days, months after months, years after years on cool ftp's are supporting the labels and artists without doing any damage
And the artists and labels are psycho bandits and are the ones to be blamed for everything bad going on in this scene.
I want my mp3 fix NOW !!!
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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:33
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zooter, this has been discussed before in 12 diffrent forms but i must say i use to be solid in my non-mp3 approach...
i am not so much today anymore, further than that - i beleive the source is the artists and the labels, the same people who cry bloody murder.
if you want to be proffesional and keep the tracks to yourself, you and only you will deflate the mp3 baloon. Until then, dont expect listeners to stop if its there for them to take. they are not holyer then thou.
in short: eliminate the source, make it only available after release since there really is nothing that could be done about that at this point.
i have yet to see "britney spears - nn.mp3" weeks before her cd release.
this is in no way will affect my responsibilites in isratrance with our no trading, no mp3 policy.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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nobody_3
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:35
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I agree 100% about keeping the music to yourself as an artist (and that if you dont that it's your own fault if it end up online) but what about after the music have been released? Then who's responsible for the trading and burning - still the artists and labels ?
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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:40
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no, then its wrong to steal the music EP.
but again, we must come up with a way to make it less desireable...
make the realy cd's more desireable with features impossible in mp3 form... with bonuses, with extras.
psysex's come in peace had a bonus vid at the end.
nano records has a cool website password link with extras.
stuff like that is the tip of the iceberg.
always take responsibilty as the producer...
always give no responsiblity to the end-user.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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aje
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:48
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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 18:52
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mostly because new users are coming in all the time aje. mostly because old topic like this usually have the tendency to end up locked. mostly because its an unresolved issue. mostly because everyone here is bored
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Dj_Rifka
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Posted : Apr 14, 2004 20:36
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too bad guys the problem is that there's a lot of mp3 traders  |
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Mitra
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 03:58
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On 2004-04-14 18:52, Surrender wrote:
mostly because new users are coming in all the time aje. mostly because old topic like this usually have the tendency to end up locked. mostly because its an unresolved issue. mostly because everyone here is bored
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hahhahaah... the best and sincere answer |
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GLXY
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 04:21
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Imo its simple like that: make the music cheap enough (50 cent or so) and make it available online and dont restrict the usage on it in any way and make it available on a per track basis and voila... no one will care about illegal sources. Got it?
x-dream, the delta, midi miliz, spirallianz, battle of the future buddhas, synthetic, dogma3000, etc |
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nobody_3
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 07:26
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On 2004-04-15 04:21, GLXY wrote:
Imo its simple like that: make the music cheap enough (50 cent or so) and make it available online and dont restrict the usage on it in any way and make it available on a per track basis and voila... no one will care about illegal sources. Got it?
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And people will still go for the free illegal music. That's the human nature.... I dont believe for one second that your suggestion will change much.... But I agree that music is too expensive.
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Kitnam
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 10:32
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at the end we discuss about the negative effects of the 'global area network' called 'internet'.
the possibility to readout audiofiles and clone it at no costs and and share it through the www is (the currency to pay music is also music = vicious circle) is a too big seducement for the people which hide behind their onlinepc and know that no one will care about it. and i like to talk about that things the 100th time if necessary - and im realy not bored... (oh my good... what a luxury to have enough freetime to feel bored )
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psyciks
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 11:05
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respect the music AND IF Y trade mp3 do it right  |
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