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Posted : Nov 29, 2011 00:34:30
hey guys anyone follow what is going on in the modular world?
i m surprised there is a lot of exciting things hapening there ! they are really pushing things ,with lot of well thought modules and with great sound quality... clearly the most exciting things hapening in the analog synthesys words these days is in the modulars it seems.
when i was thinking digital bring lot of new possiblities and lot of cool new stuff each days,the analog and modular world ( with some digtal modules too) are not sleeping! lof of great stuff with amazing sound quality.
i particulary intrested in the eurocrack format, anyone else looking at these stuff and thinking to built something?
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Posted : Dec 2, 2011 20:46
the comunnity at muff is great and wow..i m impresed with the knowledge about synthesis there, modular guys are synth guru. i have seen some video, soundcloud where some guys make a whole techno sequence with a modular ,crazy..from the kick to the snare, to the bass, everyhting...
i was intrested into modular to make my dream sounding synths but this craziness i was not even thinking about is very appealing too!
back to aalto for now i have to experiment with these patchs, it s totally different that the synthesis i m used with traditional synth,sequenced modulation and all this, so much fun
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Posted : Dec 3, 2011 14:28
yeah would be nice but not me as i m a noob,i think only dh is familiar with modular on the board.
first link ,in that topic on muff everyhting is well explained for the eurorack format.
basically you have different format with different sized modules and manufacturer,eurorack is one if not the most acitve with load of brands making module and lot of crazy stuff inpired by buchla and serge or new innovative modules.
starting a modular is not that expensive ..i will post my config once i finish choosing the modules..one could start with just a few module to process audio, or a voice module like the cwejman vm 1(high quality sound) or dark energy in modular form that cost lesss than 300 euros + you need a case ,6u /9u (2 or 3 row of modules )is fine already and cost around 200/300 euros with alim.
once you get the basic modules and case..it don't get much expensive to expand the modular with like one new module each month.
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Posted : Dec 3, 2011 15:01
in this topic you can see some 6u modular config with populars modules(more aimed at craziness, the guys seems more intrested in this than making a usual analog synth in modular form , for techno/psytrance twisted sounds it s the bomb ,sick fm,sick filters ,sick lfo..),that what i am aiming for that or 9u..
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Posted : Dec 3, 2011 15:35
100% modular patch,no computer or drum machine used ,what a amazing one ! not really sick but sound great !
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Posted : Dec 4, 2011 07:44
Unless you have a lot of cash to blow on a modular system, get a eurorack case and start building from there.
Bare in mind that although analog modulars are extremely inspiring to work with, they are impractical if you wanna be efficient with your time on making music...one voice, mono, no memory...etc...although one could argue, that inspiration=efficiency.
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Posted : Dec 4, 2011 16:20
yeah mate, but when in sound good i dont see the presets storing as a problem, might take less than 5 minutes to get great leads ?tweaking 2 vco, the filter,2 envelops and maybe one lfo, what do you think on this?
it could be a problem with complex patchs tough, but i m under the impression i dont really need to make complex one when making music ,as even a very simple patch can sound great.
the problem its when needed to come back on a patch to change the melodie and re record it and stuff like that,yeah for this it s really annoying
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Posted : Dec 4, 2011 18:47
I'll lay down some pros and cons from my long years of modular synthesis.
Pros:
They just sound great. A simple VCO into VCF patch can be used to no end.
They are very inspiring to work with.
You can get extremely deep with them, since the programming to any module, is completely open, ther is no matrix to dictate which source you are going to modulate, with which modulator and in which manner.
You can never get precise FM due to non mathematical style of importing frequency values.
You can easily get your own sound, as there are no presets. You always start from the raw waveforms.
They look great, lots of blinking lights
Cons:
The tuning drifts. Doepfer puts out their MIDI module that off sets voltages to correct VCO drift, but if you have multiple VCOs from different companies, you might find that each VCO brand needs a different off set value.
You can never get precise FM due to non mathematical style of importing frequency values.
There is no memory, so forget quick dial up of patches.
They are mono (they can be stereo and polyphonic, if you have the cash).
Most digital synths will sound boring once you get one.
They take a lot of space.
They are extremely addictive and they are expensive.
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Posted : Dec 4, 2011 19:06
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On 2011-12-03 15:35, PoM wrote:
100% modular patch,no computer or drum machine used ,what a amazing one ! not really sick but sound great !
http://vimeo.com/19814452
Check out Steevio. He gigs with his modular systems...talk about playing live eh?
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Posted : Dec 6, 2011 20:34
he probably needed time to set up is live set !! nice vids
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Posted : Dec 6, 2011 20:38
a great way to start it to use expert sleepers es3 module and their software silent way . the module connected via adat to your soundcard ,output cv signals(envelops,lfo,gate,pitch...) so it s possbile to start a modular with just a case, 1 vco 1 vca and a filter + the es3 module, great fun already for not much! i think it s the way i will start mine, it even avoid the need of a cv/midi module.
i m not sure but the es3 may be sample accurate ,that is a other avantage.
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Posted : Dec 6, 2011 21:08
es4 spdif / cv interface
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Posted : Dec 7, 2011 11:44
Brilliant module this!
Been using the MIDI learn function of the A-190 doepfer module to automate any parameters on my modular. So I could draw automation curves and pass the CV output through the A-170 Slew Limiter to smooth out the stepping of the MIDI signal.
But the ES modules has a lot more elaborate functions.
