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-=Mandari=-
Mandari
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 09:52
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sorry double post... anyways, i would love to see the whole wide world living together in piece... how can anyone wish different. makes me sad you´re seeking enemys for lifetime who still after your bunch of shit our wrote to them feel like emberassing you and showing you love....
stay safe bro, rocket zone or not....   FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
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moki
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 10:41
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@time traveller , regarding the posts on page 9 and 10 :
the fact i wanted to move your attention to is that it is simply always wiser to first rethink our own problems and search for a solution to what our own actions cause instead of pointing out to the problems that other people cause.
those of us who are calmy sitting in a nice safe flat in germany, britain, scandinavia, usa etc , often spending money on things that the third world can only dream of, paying things that we sometimes do not even need, consuming things for which children were enslaved to work or for which important natural ressources were destroyed for ever, those of us could actually first of all think about what the politics of our own countries do to our fellow men. before rasing a figure and projecting the problems of the human factor to others.
i do not need to tell you the story of liberalism or the story of money, the story of financial cirisis and the billions of depts our governments have, the ecological desasters that the big corporations based in our countries cause in the third world. you say your money comes from clients, isn't this a bit shortsiightet? i was speaking about the generall way of money, the general reason of why the west lives in economical abundance in comparison to others - it is very easy to understand the basics of political economy, even easier than to understand the middle east.
and whatever, we do have enough problems on our own to be solved , so i just do not understand why it is so important to blame others for theirs instead. no there is noone to blame for what happens in the third world just because of our extreme need of consumption! i am sure there are even 100 times more people dying because of poverty cause by our liberalism politics than they die in gaza.
universal law".
you tell me to educate myself about german media, do not worry, i work in the media since ten years now and i do know who is a zionist and who is not. may be you just listen to my words twice and assume for a second that i know what i talk about.
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Anyer
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:06
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On 2014-08-14 10:41, moki wrote:
the fact i wanted to move your attention to is that it is simply always wiser to first rethink our own problems and search for a solution to what our own actions cause instead of pointing out to the problems that other people cause.
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they dont get the point, if you tell em other thing that is not "anti israel" you are a zombie and an ignorant according to them.
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moki
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:09
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just imagine you suddenly wake up and are a citizen of israel. you drink your coffee and send your daughter to school. you never know if today there would be another terrorist who wants to sacrifice his life for Allah and go with a bomb into a public building where your daughter happened to be. what do you do?! you go and vote for a politician who is praying world peace and tolerance or you vote someone who promises to protect your daughter?
this is really not like sitting in hamburg, it is a life you could never imagine. where to run to? what if you dont want to run, what if your culture which is thausands of years old means more to you than an escape?
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:12
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yes definetly there is more poverty in the world than just in one place.
USA as well as the german government should stop spending our taxes on genocide and just stop investing in more deaths and stop investing in more weapons of Israel and stop being supporters of leaders that are responsible for war crimes and that don't want peace.
If Israel wanted peace with arabs, we would have it for decades now.
The western governments should invest in the 3rd world and spend our taxes for lives and not for bombs.
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:23
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On 2014-08-14 11:09, moki wrote:
just imagine you suddenly wake up and are a citizen of israel. you drink your coffee and send your daughter to school. you never know if today there would be another terrorist who wants to sacrifice his life for Allah and go with a bomb into a public building where your daughter happened to be. what do you do?! you go and vote for a politician who is praying world peace and tolerance or you vote someone who promises to protect your daughter?
this is really not like sitting in hamburg, it is a life you could never imagine. where to run to? what if you dont want to run, what if your culture which is thausands of years old means more to you than an escape?
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:34
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On 2014-08-14 11:09, moki wrote:
just imagine you suddenly wake up and are a citizen of israel. you drink your coffee and send your daughter to school. you never know if today there would be another terrorist who wants to sacrifice his life for Allah and go with a bomb into a public building where your daughter happened to be. what do you do?! you go and vote for a politician who is praying world peace and tolerance or you vote someone who promises to protect your daughter?
this is really not like sitting in hamburg, it is a life you could never imagine. where to run to? what if you dont want to run, what if your culture which is thausands of years old means more to you than an escape?
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Very simple.
I would critisize such government as so many jews worldwide.
How about this? Imagine you are sitting on a street now in Palestina. A country that belonged ever to you and which is now the biggest prison on earth..
Your mothers limbs are maybe a few metres around you and your sisters head is maybe not anymore where it should be.Each of your friends has deaths in their families. You cannot sleep savely, you have no fear of death. Each moment you could be dead and you know it. And the opressors treat you not as human beings but as a target to let all their rage out.
The streets are red from blood and you play with isreals rockets as a child. Imagine that this is your country.Please wake up from your naive thinking! Also from that the guys that blew themselves up in buses make it for fun or without any reason! I find it sad and scary but this is too simple to think like that. It has a reason - and this reason is Isreal bombs on their country, and all that tragedy that has brought the occupation of Palestina! And I'm against war. The war starters are the responsible not those that defend themselves - with that possibilities they have.
Also Im not really too often in Hamburg so why do you copy with all that funny statements of Faxi so simple? That simply don't touch me all and is rather funny theories of me being a naive european that never comes out or dont know anything, what I do and how comfortable and such. It does not fit really to me. I was long time in Africa recently.During ramadan it is not that comfortable if you know what I mean. I'm just a few days in Europe again.And I'm away this month and in Oktober again. However, be sure, I am with one feed away from Europe for ever. That is really personal just because I love it more on other continent and just it get on nerves all this fake assumptions like it is easy for me to sit in Europe and not knowing else :-D If I just could I would be long time away from here. I work on it  So please let's stay on that what we know
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:39
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the entities who ruled this land for the las thousands of years are: (sorry if i missed some empire)
judea
persian empire
greek empire
judea
roman empire
judea
byzantine empire
arab empires
crusaders
arab empires
egyptian dynasties / syrian dynasties
ottoman empire
british empire
israel (judea)
when was it ever palestine?
"the streets are red from blood" (wtf?)
time traveller you are worse than colin lol. where do you get this stuff? :0
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:43
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Mandari
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:44
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never you´re right faxi.... dont bitch around with terms.... anyways this wont ever give your government the right to decide putting up a state there....everything your government does will only cause more rage of arabs and so called palestinians there.... so pls get it.... an eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind!!
its a usual common (and natural, at least to me a good!!) thing that ppl will in heart an mind defend the WEAK MINORITY!
if this all is true or not..... i dont wanna take sides, like said. but as we cant know, how cant YOU understand that this is logic human behaviour that heart and mind does for sure defend the weak minority of the "palestianian" ppl..... n pls dont argue bout right or wrong. brainwashed or not.... you could be calm chilling if you´d be that fine with all that shit....
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:45
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ya, the internet, a palestinian website no less. you realise that on the internet EVERYTHING shoudl be questioned? for every link there is the counter-link. i am here sitting here, telling you like it is in my own eyes and words. you rather assume i am evil and the link is good, what makes you make that automatic choice? you understand how flawed your logic is?
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:47
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if i were you, i would actually take both those links and what i am saying with 10 grains of salt, but you seem to have a finite opinion based on a set of information you have no ability to know if its real, and block from your mind any information that is counter to what you decided is right, even when people that actually are there, are trying to tell you otherwise.
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-=Mandari=-
Mandari
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:48
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no i dont and never did.... maybe some here do, ask yourself what you put to it to reach this peak... no offence, just recite your words of counter opinion. at the end its each of us owns reality... we shouldnt behave like this here...
they all did a great job it seems...... its never been about oil, holy land or such....its about split humanity, and it works great as it seems 
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:49
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 11:50
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