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Mexican Psychedelia

Forza
Forza

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Posted : Dec 23, 2007 18:23
Have you ever thought on this? we are a psychedelic culture 100%

Mexico's the land of colors, light, beauty and diversity, it's the land of ancient and wise civilizations, it's the country that has the widest variety of ritual plants and shamanic culture, according to Albert Hoffman's book, plants of the Gods.

Besides our ancestors, the Mayas, Toltecs, Mexicas, Olmecs which left us a very rich psychedelic heritage we also have cultures within us like Huicholes who are 100% psycehdelic

Our ancestors also left us a rich pantheon of devas, I used that word because I like to put the Gods or Spirits of our ancestors in the same level to indian devas.

There is even a rig veda americanus!!

http://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/aztec/rva/index.htm

Some Mexica and Mayan Devas

Ehecatl, the Mexica wind Deva
Kukulkan or Quetzalcoatl the Serpent Deva of wisdom from the Mexicas and Mayas Kukulkan = Kundalini?
Tlaloc - Chac-Mool, the Mexica and Mayan Deva of water
Tonatiuh - The Mexica sun Deva
Xilonen - The ancient Mexica Maize Deva

Of these Kukulcan, Tlaloc and Tonatiuh are Mahadevas (imho)

Hymn to a Night God. (in Nahuatl and English)

PRIEST OF XIPPE TOTEC, DRINKING AND PLAYING ON A DRUM

1. Yoalli tlauana, iztleican nimonenequia xiyaqui mitlatia teocuitlaquemitl, xicmoquenti quetlauia.

2. Noteua chalchimamatlaco, apana, y temoya ay quetzallaueuetl, ay quetzalxiuicoatl, nechiya iqui nocauhquetl, ouiya.

3. Maniyauia, nia nia poliuiz, ni yoatzin achalchiuhtla noyollo, ateucuitlatl nocoyaitaz, noyolceuizqui tlacatl achtoquetl tlaquauaya, otlacatqui yautlatoaquetl ouiya.

4. Noteua cc in tlaco xayailiuiz qonoa y yoatzin motepeyocpa mitzualitta moteua, noyolceuizquin tlacatl achtoquetl tlaquauaya, otlacatqui yautlatoaquetl, ouiya.

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1. The nightly drinking, why should I oppose it? Go forth and array yourselves in the golden garments, clothe yourselves in the glittering vestments.

2. My god descended upon the water, into the beautiful glistening surface; he was as a lovely water cypress, as a beauteous green serpent; now I have left behind me my suffering.

3. I go forth, I go forth about to destroy, I, Yoatzin; my soul is in the cerulean water; I am seen in the golden water; I shall appear unto mortals; I shall strengthen them for the words of war!

4. My god appears as a mortal; O Yoatzin, thou art seen upon the mountains; I shall appear unto mortals; I shall strengthen them for the words of war.

Raise ancient Jaguar and Eagle Mexica Light Warriors and claim your psychedelic heritage!!

Viva México Cabrones
          Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
alfreak
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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 04:09
hey!! do u know any other website that will have symbols about the same topic or anything related to our last cultures...           -PaRtYcLeS aLL oVeR tHE WoOdS

http://soundcloud.com/odalfer
http://soundcloud.com/groups/more-techno-house-minimal-progress-ive
Forza
Forza

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Posted : Dec 27, 2007 15:27
I'll post more sites soon, but check this one out, you'll love it

http://www.tortuga.com/           Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
alfreak
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Posted : Dec 28, 2007 05:02
cool stuff man!!           -PaRtYcLeS aLL oVeR tHE WoOdS

http://soundcloud.com/odalfer
http://soundcloud.com/groups/more-techno-house-minimal-progress-ive
Angel Ai
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Posted : Dec 28, 2007 10:48
i think we are one of the more psychedelic cultures at the world...
Shaman Films Records
Shaman Films Records

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Posted : Jan 19, 2008 15:04
well said           Egnogra
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Posted : Jan 20, 2008 04:51
..Mèxico also is the land of CORRUPTION¡¡¡

=(
Serag
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Posted : Jan 20, 2008 08:10
Quote:

On 2007-12-28 10:48, Angel Ai wrote:
i think we are one of the more psychedelic cultures at the world...



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On 2008-01-19 15:04, Shaman Films Records wrote:
well said




Yes we have psychedelics and mushrooms and peyote and many many plants of power but talking about a real present psychedelic culture like for example psytrance culture we dont have nothing.
We just have people druged and losted in partys. But no real psyvibes.. just take a look at gil's partys.. in all the world and here in mexico.. is a big diference when u see the big picture.
Forza
Forza

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Posted : Jan 20, 2008 20:23
Quote:

On 2008-01-20 04:51, Qfb wrote:
..Mèxico also is the land of CORRUPTION¡¡¡

=(




Corruption is part of the evil force that is present in this world of ours, it exists everywhere, with varying degrees, as politics should remain away from this forum I won't enter into details, but corruption exists everywhere.

Quote:
Yes we have psychedelics and mushrooms and peyote and many many plants of power but talking about a real present psychedelic culture like for example psytrance culture we dont have nothing.
We just have people druged and losted in partys. But no real psyvibes.. just take a look at gil's partys.. in all the world and here in mexico.. is a big diference when u see the big picture.



Of course we have psychedelia, just look at the huicholes and their way of living, they aren't just fashion or pose, they live in that way and believe what they live, that's part of Mexico... It is what its inside in the deepest part of the heart of our country's essence.

Now speaking of psychedelic parties, while what you said is true to some degree, when has complaining solved anything? Like Gandhi said, be the change that you want to see in this world!!

And like Mother Theresa said, don't wait for leaders, do it yourself!

That's the only way things will improve, do we want them to improve?

we have such a rich heritage that our ancestors left for us, that few countries in the globe, it is a shame we just sit and complain.

let's reduce apathy, negativity and lack of interest to ashes, together with the problems of our scene and build a new one.

Om Shiva Mahadeva

Why don't we start with some enlightening, respectful, constructive, interesting and funny dialogues in this space of ours?

          Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
Serag
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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 03:24
Well, i guess your ego is too big for my posts.

Not everything circules around --enlightening, respectful, constructive, interesting and funny dialogues man!

You CANT judge every comment here man.
It seems that u didnt read the topic that you personaly made! at --cant we do better--?
DO NOT FEEL HURTED FOR POSTS U DONT LIKE. KEEP GOING.

Thats the moraleja here.

My point is clear.

In mexico we DONT have psychedelia because we dont have any real education about it.
Have we lived in the huicholes places? NO.
Have we go with our parents to the desert since childs??? NO.
Do we have a shaman at the next corner to cure our familys? NO.
So stop adulating huicholes, and mayas and whatever ,, this people they do really haave a psychedelic life! .
Im tired of this actitud man, mexico lives in a fking dream! this is my last aportation in this topic. thats it, i got sick.
Forza
Forza

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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 16:39
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On 2008-01-21 03:24, Serag wrote:
Well, i guess your ego is too big for my posts.



Maybe, then help me reduce my ego to ashes and tell me why do you think this.

Quote:
Not everything circules around --enlightening, respectful, constructive, interesting and funny dialogues man!



Why not? then do you prefer to be tuned into the negative thought frequency to keep attracting negative things?

Quote:
You CANT judge every comment here man.
It seems that u didnt read the topic that you personaly made! at --cant we do better--?
DO NOT FEEL HURTED FOR POSTS U DONT LIKE. KEEP GOING.



imho, forums gives us the right to attack the idea, not the forum user, if this is done respectfully and constructively, this is a place to exchange ideas that's the point of coming here, I didn't feel in any way hurt for the post you wrote here.

However I still feel that just complaining about what's wrong is very easy, when we stop complaining and start doing something things will change.

Quote:
Thats the moral here.

My point is clear.

In mexico we DONT have psychedelia because we dont have any real education about it.
Have we lived in the huicholes places? NO.
Have we go with our parents to the desert since childs??? NO.
Do we have a shaman at the next corner to cure our familys? NO.
So stop adulating huicholes, and mayas and whatever ,, this people they do really haave a psychedelic life!



You mentioned a lot of things that are true my friend, so what are we waiting for!! let's get educated and learn more about the things we have home, we don't need to look for them outside!! and we have a very powerful tool to do this, this forum, our place to do exactly this!!! so why don't we start putting it to good some use? it's good for us, it's good for the scene, and it's good for the world!


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Im tired of this attitude man, mexico lives in a fking dream! this is my last aportation in this topic. thats it, i got sick.



Ok, you spotted my ego and made some remarks about it, I guess that gives me the right return the favor to you please understand that it is done with the best intention, to help you have a clear vision and develop a more positive mindset.

You ego is full of negativity man, it refuses to let you open to the posibility of a more positive mindset and attitude towards the scene and life itself, this way you will never evolve, two of the prefered mechanisms of defense of your ego are evasion, and rage, its easier to get mad and close yourself to the posibility of a better attitude and then quit the forum or the post than hit your ego than to face it and fight it and then do something and change it! or at least continue the dialogue.

Wise men have dialogues
Fools argue.

we are wise so we can have a dialogue

Awaken and rise eagle warrior!!!

Let the fire of Shiva, destroy your ego, and mental barriers.

Or if you prefer let it be the holy fire of Tatewari!!

Om Shiva Mahadeva!!!
Om Tatewari greater fire god!!!

          Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
Serag
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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 19:11
OK. apreciate your answering.

Let me think about it and then i will post something "constructive".
But just fast, and maybe off topic now..

Maybe i have negativity which is not very confortable but maybe you have a lot of positiveness which maybe is too sweet for my ears, but ironicly the world needs this 2 polaritys to spin.

Maybe my love to the world and to you is transmited thru my ugly posts. think about it...

Forza
Forza

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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 19:27
Awesome reply my dear friend!!!

Ying - Yang huh? opposite poles tend to attract each other.

it's great to have you here, please keep your posts coming!

thanks for your love, hehehehe sending all mine back to you           Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
Serag
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Posted : Jan 23, 2008 21:10
AMEN!
a3k
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Posted : Jan 23, 2008 22:20
now please all sit together and drink some beers

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