Pauldo
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Posted : Apr 21, 2011 08:46
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Here's some more challenges: universal energies!? That sounds nonsensical to me. How does these universal energies actually help people? What is the nature of these energies? Can you prove they exist? How do they actually work? All energy sources in the universe send their energy waves towards Earth and when they reach me they like go into my brain and make me a better person?
no actually this is a positive sign that you probe and question, but it would be nice if you could ask with and put question with a little respect and in nicer words, because we are not in competition here, we are here because we are curious, because there is something inside us all known as intellegence, awareness,conciousness,,, so you want to know what are these universal energies,and how do they help,influence individuals,etc etc, first they are present and your body is sensing and recieveing them all the time, just because your brain is occupied with non sensical shit, it does not see the operations goin on at the subtle levels in the conciousness,, these energies r present like air, like sound,, even tho you cannot see them does not mean they r not there,, they travel and we sense them with our senses, now dont the human brain has a massive capacity,in the sense that we have 5 known senses, ok , do you know the human brain does not operate at 100% instead only like 10% of the brain is used in activity,the rest if it is sleeping, and if this unknown part of the brain is explored, it will reveal many extra senses which n not talked about so openly, ok even if you dont except some 6th senses, can u except the possibility of some extra sensosry perception if the brain is at 100%? if more % of the brain is awakened and used,maybe some more senses like our normal sense wake up?..the brain was not made to be doing jobs,or petty bullshit we guys do it was make for intellegence, how do i put it,,it is capable of far more than thought possible.first to see into this you have to understand the working inside of you, you asked me what are these energies, so who inside you wants to know? who is the one inside you asking? who is this? is it my conciousness? is it my brain?who is the one who resides inside? i'm sure if you probe into this matter and simply observe yourself, then at a certain point you might become aware of what other outside energies effect you, for example,naah forget example, you go look youself.no amount of knowledge will help, only suble observation , if i tell u to sit quietly for 5 minutes, can you sit quietly with yourself without speaking to yourself, without any kind of chattering going on inside ur head? can you remain in silence for just 20 seconds? 2 minutes? 20 minutes?lets see how comfortable you are with yourself! only in that comfortable silence can u sense all the various external energies commin and effecting your daily activities.why dont you try for 2 minutes and see if you can be silent with yourself, maybe you will see what i mean,maybe u will call me a loon, we r goons anyway which boom
Actually the 10% figure is a fallacy. The newest figure I've heard is 20-25%. The whole brain itself is actually very active and needed. There isn't any part of the brain that is useless like the appendix.
I believe additional senses are possible but we would have to develop additional parts and functions of the brain. Again, there isn't some kind of untapped, untouched or inactivated portions of the brain.
I do view the brain very much as a muscle and you can choose to exercise certain positive neural pathways while letting negative pathways atrophy. We really can exercise our brain with language. (I'm not just talking about "the power of positive thinking" kind of woo woo stuff.)
Meditation is a great physical brain exercise. I don't believe that you go to some kind of magical ethereal place when you meditate deeply. It's just a great physical exercise. I wish I could establish a regular meditation practice. What little study I've done has been in the Zen tradition...which doesn't even address an after-life or god(s).
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Posted : Apr 21, 2011 09:01
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man , couldnt have chosen a wronger place to do whatever it is you think you are trying to do , in here (at least i would like very much to believe) , we are free from religious indoctrination etc for the most part , its totally cool if jesus was gay , lol , whats your point bro
No it's totally the right place. I don't believe any there's wrong people or groups. I feel connected to the psy community so why wouldn't I share my beliefs with people I care deeply about.
Yeah I would also agree this community is free from religious indoctrination. It is so deeply ingrained in all of society though. Magical thinking runs through most religions and spiritual practices. I also think though that the community can go further in challenging their beliefs about spirituality.
I already explained my point previously in this thread. Again, I don't care if Jebus was gay other than, if true, would be a glaring example of how historically inaccurate and historically revised the foundation of peoples daily moral lives are. Plus it would just be hella funny.
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Posted : Apr 21, 2011 09:23
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I think there is a direct association between religion and intolerance. For a religion to even "work" they must inherently be intolerant to other views. In order to propagate their views onto the next generation that intolerance must be taught and maintained. Otherwise the religion would cease to exist if they allowed outside influence.
It's a nice theory, Pauldo. In practice, though, the most intollerant participant in this conversation happened to be an atheist.
I have never let belief about god/religion stop me from being deeply related to friends and family. I am fiercely intolerant when discussing this issue in a public or semi-public realm like this forum. What we say in the public domain does matter to all of us. Their are no wrong conversations.
Here's the deal: GOD was created at a time when man was far more ignorant of how the physical world actually works. Science is now a much more accurate descriptor of how the Universe works. Do you really think god/spirituality is how it all works? It's just not inaccurate, it's implausible.
GOD is the greatest cognitive mis-step in man's history. On par with when we thought the Earth was flat and that we were the center of the Universe and everything else revolved around us. How egotistical of us! That egotism continues throughout society. People think there's a god that is benevolent and cares about us specifically and loves us. Or how we can just pray or doing something like the sign of the cross, in order to better our position in life and gain favor in the after-life...or to have your favorite sports team beat another sports team. I'd love it to see the community dissolve their spiritual ego's.
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wow, this guy did work you up gopendru,, a little extra sensitive side you show of urself here, dont mind pauldo guys words that much bru, he dont have a good understanding but he is trying to probe and question,, even tho his intention is positive, he does not know how to positively construct a decent inquery,, instead he chooses to provoke reactions,, like u showed,, even i show my extra emotional side sometimes,,its ok ,, all is good, jah bless,,, dont be easily influenced by exterior forces, words, actions,,, etc,, your inner stillness cannot be disturbed by any exterior forces,,you are untouchable,,sitting high above all this,, peace brew peace
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Posted : Jun 1, 2011 16:25
Gopendra I never thought of Jesus as being gay, but if somebody has that belief well who am I to tell them that they are wrong? Because the truth is that what I have heard of Jesus comes from what other people have told me so what is the point of getting all fanatical about it when in the end I don’t know. I just don’t and I am not going to pretend I do.
And you say you have no problem with Gay people but you clearly have a very strong issue with it, and are very violent in your rethoric against gay people, despite you thinking its “love”. I mean calling someone gay seems to be like the worst insult to you. You know there are all kinds of oddities in nature, like some mushrooms have thousands of genders, some animals like the mantis really strange sexual practices, and who knows what is out there in the universe. So could we be a little more humble about what we assume God thinks before we go on judging?
You know weather being Gay is natural or not what I find highly unlikely is that God or Jesus are anywhere near as judgemental as you are about gay people. Like what if you are, umm… wrong? Like the Fanatics that were all waiting for the rapture recently on May 21 and were flabbergasted to find out nothing happened despite them being utterly convinced about that date. Gopendra you talk like you have seen the beginning and the end of all, like you hold the only truth but I honestly don’t think it’s anybodies place to judge people. It’s always the problem with fanactis, they loose themselves in their own beliefs and forget that in the end it’s just their own perspective.
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Posted : Jun 1, 2011 16:31
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Gopendra I never thought of Jesus as being gay, but if somebody has that belief well who am I to tell them that they are wrong?
I don't know, Aluxe...
Who is Pauldo to tell everybody that they need to be atheist? I am not telling him to go back to church.
Live and let live...
(Funny, he calls himself a Libertarian too )
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Posted : Jun 1, 2011 20:32
How about sharing ideas and beliefs without offending those of others?
Can you do it?
Please try. Thanks.
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Posted : Jun 2, 2011 07:13
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I don't know, Aluxe...
Who is Pauldo to tell everybody that they need to be atheist? I am not telling him to go back to church.
Live and let live...
yeah I agree it goes for both sides. We just got to learn to respect everyone and aspire for some unity despite our differences. Why judge like we know it all? just live and let live and love all the people.
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Posted : Jun 5, 2011 23:10
not sure if serious or just trolling "Gopendragon"
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Does it matter?
This topic stinks. Gopendragon just points out the obvious: it's offensive to a sizable chunk of world’s population, even as a joke. And I don’t know about others here but I fail to see any value in it, whether for our entertainment or personal enrichment. So, why was it started? Not enough religious quarrel in this world?
I am outta here…
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Posted : Jun 7, 2011 02:02
Pauldo i have one question for you and depending your answer i will consider the future of this topic which although i am a religious agnostic i find strange to say the least.
Do you believe in a religion or are you an atheist?
Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
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pls go ahead and delete this bull, it is quite meaningless and the author seemed to have dissolved or is irrelevent in a serious discusio
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Actually if he doesnt answer my question in 2 days this is what i am going to do.
Because if he is an atheist for example then how can he believe in Jesus and speak about him about being this or that?
Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
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Well, plenty of atheists believe that Jesus (the man) actually existed.
This topic still stinks, though.
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Posted : Jun 12, 2011 19:44
I'm still here! Been on vacation n' travels n' festies, oh my! Will catch up with y'all soon.
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