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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 03:25:07
>>Jesus as an openly gay man
What if the newly found codices provided evidence of Jesus's same-sex activity? Michael Ruse imagines the implications
The most astounding finding from the newly discovered lead codices is that Jesus Christ was unambiguously and openly gay. He and his disciples formed a same-sex coterie, bound by feelings of love and mutual support. There are recorded instances of same-sex activity – the "beloved disciple" plays a significant role – and there is affirmation of the joys of friendship and of living and loving together.
A whole new complexion is given to that rather puzzling passage where Jesus exhorts his followers to break family ties: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14, 26). It seems clear now that this is less a negative repudiation of family and more a positive exhortation to join in affirmation of a gay lifestyle and love.
There is at least one new parable, that of the two young men. There are clear echoes of the relationship between David and Jonathan, for Jesus speaks of one young man having his soul "knit with the soul" of the other, and loving him "as his own soul". Intriguing is evidence that the Catholics might be closer to the truth about the status of Mary, the mother of Jesus, than are the Protestants. She has a much bigger role in the life of Jesus than many hitherto expected, with Jesus frequently returning home and making much of her.
Conversely, there is at least one incident when Jesus quarrels violently with Joseph, who shows great hostility and makes wild claims about "manliness". Before, one might have thought that, given Mary's virginity, Joseph's attitude was reflecting the ambiguities of his status in the family; but now it seems more probable that we have here a classic example of the Freudian triangle: over-possessive mother, hostile father, gay son.
Why have we known so little about all of this before? A newly discovered Pauline epistle, appropriately to the Athenians, suggests a major Platonic influence, particularly of the Republic. The classically educated Paul, who was himself gay, saw that same-sex activity was inimical to the success of Christianity in the highly homophobic societies in which he lived. Hence, same-sex affections and activity were concealed, to be known to and practised by only the leaders in secret – the guardians of Christianity as one might say. Obviously, this is a tradition that has flourished and lasted. It is not by chance that John Henry Newman is being made a saint.
Finally, the most important news is that nothing in the newly discovered codices challenges in any way the essential message of Christianity. Jesus was the messiah; he died on the cross for our sins; and through his death and resurrection made possible our eternal salvation. Our overriding obligation is to love God and we do this by loving our neighbours as ourselves. Christianity will never be the same again. Christianity will go on completely unchanged.
Pauldo
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 22:08
Or maybe he never really existed and he was created by Paul, also gay.
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I really believe he existed,since he is mentioned in all that famous books ^^ but maybe he was a very open minded guy who got interest in herbs and liked to tell what he expirience or sth and maybe people interpreted him without really understanding him or he was an extreme freak.However I dont believe he died and ressurected,I imagine him as a wanderer,preacer and smoker more an oldskool hippy.greets
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 09:52
lol
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Wow, I love just how open minded and free thinking people are these days! Kudos.
Im an Indian, and I wonder if the day will come when someone posts a similar link to a similar article like this in the Indian section.... only it will be about Shiva or Krishna or Buddha or maybe Jesus. And my fellow countrymen will just "lol".
so cool. Keep it up guys.
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 18:24
how old are you Pauldo?
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 20:06
paul , heres what you seem to be morphing into , lol , & for no reason at all ..
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 20:08
are you a black metal fan ? , Gaahl ...
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 21:05
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On 2011-04-11 20:06, mk47 wrote:
paul , heres what you seem to be morphing into , lol , & for no reason at all ..
This guy is exactly why I'm as militant as I am. A majority of the worlds religious people would have no problem with me being stoned to death because I'm gay, hiv+, Atheist, psyhead, Libertarian or any of my other labels.
Pauldo is 41.
Pauldo can appreciate metal but not a collector of that genre.
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 21:08
Another Jeebus theory I heard is that during the missing time period from his life story he actually went to India and was booming the chillum.
Here's a good video explaining the inconsistencies re: the Jesus story. Worth watching even if you're just a history buff.
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Posted : Apr 11, 2011 22:00
jesus was kool mang, me think he a o k
and yea, i'd booom chillums with him anyday
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Posted : Apr 16, 2011 00:52
Actually your tone is bit offensive homie. Jesus is so far ahead of you that this means nothing to him. Say what you want. The Truth is the Truth.
Jesus was the incarnation of the Divine and Androgynous Creator in the physical world. he had no interest in sex of anykind.
The next incarnation of Christ might be in a female form.
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Posted : Apr 16, 2011 04:47
this is unfurtunate, thnx"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
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A majority of the worlds religious people would have no problem with me being stoned to death because I'm gay, hiv+, Atheist, psyhead, Libertarian or any of my other labels.
This is an example of confounding, IMHO.
What you said is probably true for many people in general – religious or not. It is also true that most people hold some kind of a religious belief. Hence a false association between religion and intolerance. Just a statistical artefact.
