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Isratrance forum suggestions.

moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Dec 4, 2010 20:22
can someone please call mr posford and tell him we wanna go back through the door and are lost in the isratrance forum?
moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Dec 4, 2010 20:34
no. lets be nice to each other. at least we still have the opportunity to see our faces here from time to time . and this could be gone as well, faster than you think. keep in mind, there is no other alternative for an "international bigger trance forum". a newcomer would need 10 years to reach what isratrance has.

lets be nice to mr rosengren and respect the music. no other suggestions about the forum? come on.

if you insist on user profiles instead of insisting on psychedelic section, it will be more of a "solution directed". then you would be able to link on topics you like instead of hosting them in the forum. a mod might even be too busy to check your profiles.
full_on
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Dec 4, 2010 21:52
Please let's not be aggressive, put a chill song and relax whenever you feel like writing "fuc#".

Quote:

On 2010-12-04 20:34, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
if you insist on user profiles instead of insisting on psychedelic section, it will be more of a "solution directed". then you would be able to link on topics you like instead of hosting them in the forum. a mod might even be too busy to check your profiles.



You are right, you could put links to mostly whatever you want, including drugs.

This would also give more freedom to the users to share content, like favorite topics, videos, Top 10s, and links to other interesting profiles.
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lucidpicnic
Lucid Picnic

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Posts :  855
Posted : Dec 4, 2010 22:09
Quote:

On 2010-12-04 21:52, full_on wrote:
Please let's not be aggressive, put a chill song and relax whenever you feel like writing "fuc#".




what the FUCK???

so you decide what i can discuss and what i can't,
so you decide which words i can use and i can't.

what is next?

i find this quite rude and aggressive compared to using the word FUCK.

there is something really wrong with isratrance moderation.
i already had big problems with that issue about talking politics.
so sad to see nothing has changed.
don't give me 'this is a music forum' crap since you always use the words 'scene' and 'culture'.


so using the word FUCK is wrong huh?
wow! you guys are out of your FUCKING minds.

peace & love & unity

now its all cool huh.

FUCK this shit.

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Beat Agency
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Dec 4, 2010 22:18
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lucidpicnic
Lucid Picnic

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Posted : Dec 4, 2010 22:25
another serious matter...
and you guys talking about being chill..
why to be chill always? is there a forum rule also that we have to be chill and peaceful all the time??
i am talking about some serious problems that i see here, which force me to 'write' in an aggressive mode.



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TimeTraveller
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  3207
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 00:08
Quote:

On 2010-12-01 21:04, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
would be interesting to have a section about programming which is why psy trance exists - because of programmers and people who made synths.




This sound very interesting.Great idea.

I wish the avarage tone of the discussions in topics would be less ego and more friendly and open to each one.But I believe this will be only utopia here.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
A.Rosengren
Solid Snake

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Posts :  4139
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 00:37
I wasn't showing anyone the door, I was just pointing out the fact that there are already other doors open if you want to discuss these matters online.

And please everyone try and keep the discussion constructive and less nihilistic It's so depressing trying to do something good and all you get is flamethrowing fire squirters and drugs yes or no debate.

Thanks.

A
full_on
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Dec 5, 2010 01:44
Quote:

On 2010-12-04 22:09, lucidpicnic wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-12-04 21:52, full_on wrote:
Please let's not be aggressive, put a chill song and relax whenever you feel like writing "fuc#".



what the FUCK???

so you decide what i can discuss and what i can't,
so you decide which words i can use and i can't.



I am the guy who is trying not to get you banned, your behavior led people to ask for your banishment. I was trying being polite, because it is clear that your behavior is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

This is an International Forum, people should respect each other and give the good example. I think your language is abusive, and I have the guidelines backing me up.

http://forum.isratrance.com/guideline.html

Quote:

On 2010-12-04 22:25, lucidpicnic wrote:
i am talking about some serious problems that i see here, which force me to 'write' in an aggressive mode.



If you can't stop being aggressive, either change the subject or don't post anything. Every now and then maybe it is ok, but there's no justification for calling people chicken or writing fuc# recursively. We're adults.
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          .
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...Dance like nobody's watching...
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lucidpicnic
Lucid Picnic

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Posts :  855
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 12:14
mr. very gentle full_on,

so you say we're adults but people ask you for my banishment like little kids.
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you also say my behavior is 'unacceptable' here as if it is a totalitarian country, as if forum rules are there to rule people's attitude.
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you say my language is in proper, and you are backing up your argument with set of 'rules'.
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i see your bat, and your 'adult' behavior.
my apologies to shahar who was really understanding my points and argued these things with me in a mature way with me years ago and made my mind to stay instead of just leaving isratrance where i had many good discussions and where i learned many new stuff about music and world.

but this place is far out..
no need to threat me with banning like a fascist cop.
this place smells like a country where freedom of speech is forbidden. where no tolerance for other attitude other than being polite and peaceful.

smells bacon here , i leave..           Whatever the Thinker thinks, the Prover proves

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TimeTraveller
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  80
Posts :  3207
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 13:00
Quote:

On 2010-12-05 00:37, A.Rosengren wrote:


And please everyone try and keep the discussion constructive and less nihilistic It's so depressing trying to do something good and all you get is flamethrowing fire squirters and drugs yes or no debate.

Thanks.

A



Im not sure but I feel it is directed to me.

First of all,I have not read anything in this topic from you,I just threw a fast eye on the lines and found the one from Moki which I found good.

To the drug debate.
1.This is your music,and it is full of drugs.Period.
An exchange of opinions should be supported and not kept quite.So siple acutaly.
2.
IF you read mine comment than you would realize that I was just honest,extremely honest.
If you think I love drugs or sth like this,than you really understand nothing from my comment.And yeah I bet lots of this useless comments after it seemed like it IMO.
END.
Dont forget your forum lives only because of your visitors.Try to be nice and help users espescially IF you want to keep the elder ones.The only side where is full of repeatment is the production section.There you should work on constructiveness and not so much on subforums dedicated to open just the mind and tell whats on it like spiritual or in trance subforum IMO.



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TranceVisuals
TranceVisuals

Started Topics :  23
Posts :  743
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 13:21
The mods would probably give Socrates hemlock if he was on this forum......

But whilst on the subject of corrupting the young, and refusing to acknowledge the god(s) of the state......

Come on everyone let's all make up our own mind, in open discussion, and fuck the fear-sayers...

P.s Mr Rosengren, you might be surprised but there is actually not that many places you can talk about such things. Also I am curious how you can view music, especially psytrance as divorced from its "environment", and context.          www.youtube.com/trancevisuals

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DETOX
Moderator

Started Topics :  296
Posts :  6194
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 13:30
Before joining this forum each one of you aggreed to the forum guidelines that say that abusive and offensive language is forbidden.

If you decided to ignore or skip these guidelines its your right BUT if the people responsible for this forum decide to kick you out of this place its also their right and they cant be called fascists or monarchs or dictators or whatever.

Democracy exists when people aggree on a set of rules and follow them,you aggreed on this set of rules when joining here,so dont start preaching people about freedom of speech and fascist moderators because the problem is YOU and not anyone else.

P.S Dear Lucidpicnic some days ago you told me in an ironic way to read more carefully other peoples posts and that another user asked for the creation of a section where psychedelic experiences with or WITHOUT (you put bold on without) substances could be discussed. When i answered back that there is already a spirituality section in case you havent noticed it you avoid answering back and recognizing your mistake and instead posted a chicken photograph. The only one with a childish and immature attitude in this place is you.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
moki
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  38
Posts :  1931
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 14:02
wow people, i am really surprised about the development of the discussion.

as i said three pages ago, how many of you know how it feels to put your name in the disclaimer of a website and to be responsible for everything that is written there and to keep the possibility every day open, that the court might have sent you a letter in your post box? i tell you, i did this, and it is not so funny any more because the responsibility is big and a website can be closed within an hour. then you can get a bill about some tausend euro to pay. what about first do this, and then talk about a psychedelic anarchy in a place where someone else is responsible?

which is this country in the world that you mean where the freedom of speech does not find its official restrictions: 1. in the protection of the youth and 2. in the common human rights ?
of course you can talk and do whatever, but whataver you say, has consequences. and you dont even need to think of karma about it, just think of the court and legal procedures that come to you and state some "good reasons" to close a community. i can imagine that this can happen to isratrance if the psychedelics become a section and people start to emphasise on that. you cant imagine this?

and come on, there are so many worse places than here. i remember most of the users acted like chicks in my topic about the dictatorship in the trance scene. there you told me that a private can do whatever he wants on his website. i asked you kindly to rethink it and may be DO something against places like goabase where people are banned according to private preferations and not according to forum guidelines. you did nothing. instead you are trying to prove that everyone can talk whatever he wants. of course you can. but an adult rethinks the consequences and acts according to them. you win nothing if isratrance is closed by higher legal procedures. but you could win a lot if you have the possibility too spread your ideas in such a big community so lets think of a way how to make it happen without risks.

in any conflict of interests it is important to keep in mind pro and contra of both sides. banning of people is stupid and btw democracy is not the last word of society either. what about egalitarianism? nobody will ever be removed from a system and it is discussed as long as everyone agrees about the future plan??? of course it can only be discussed if someone has arguments and not fucking around in 100 percent of his sentences. then a pause might take place for the individual to rethink and then he gets the opportunity to speak again, in two weeks or a month?

and besides. the suggestion is simple. user profiles should be programmed where topics can be opened and discussed within the profile. as i see the programming of isratrance, this should be easy to do - you need to protect internal discussions within a profile by a " group of users" which will be only the user whose profile this is. every new topic posted by users in their profile appears in a common news section where everyone can check who posted what, like a list of new internal posts. ready. this is what i want. i am ready to help this happen.
A.Rosengren
Solid Snake

Started Topics :  266
Posts :  4139
Posted : Dec 5, 2010 14:10
Quote:

On 2010-12-05 13:00, TimeTraveller wrote:
Quote:

On 2010-12-05 00:37, A.Rosengren wrote:


And please everyone try and keep the discussion constructive and less nihilistic It's so depressing trying to do something good and all you get is flamethrowing fire squirters and drugs yes or no debate.

Thanks.

A



Im not sure but I feel it is directed to me.




Actually it was a general statement not directed to anyone in particular.

A
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