Israely Scene

On 2010-01-19 15:15, Avishay wrote:
Ok, here's an idea.
Why dont we change this forum's name to the Isra-moan, and be done with it ?
every second post claims something is dead, fainting or just doesnt feel too good about itself.
Those that don't, that may start out positive (like this one), eventually end up with the same list of never changing moans.
maybe, just maybe its the reason these blue pages have seen better days ?
Seriously, who wants to join a pack of geezers ranting away:
oi, it was so much better back then
oi, everybody is killing my vibes
oi oi oi.

Maybe someone can finally tell me what was "back then" that was so good ?

was it the balloons ?
maybe those off-the-charts-police-raids did it for ya ?
or maybe you miss that beloved aggressive, violence inducing music that rained the earth two-three years ago (who said dark ???).
Maybe its time to wake up and smell the coffee. the only thing that has changed in the interval since then and now is the beholder.
Yes, we were young and restless, did a lot of acid and everything was sooo dreamy and full of fairies. there were only good parties, free of charge, with just our kind of music playing from night till day.
was it ?
were there no commercial parties then ? no clubs ? no genre wars ?
sure there were ! you just weren't involved enough back then to notice (young, acid, remember ?). now you are. so, good morning, sunshine.

Maybe someone can finally tell me what was "back then" that was so good ?

On 2010-02-16 15:23, Avishay wrote:
Ok, can't believe I'm being pulled in, but I guess I was taught by the best.

True, I realize that I am not the average party attendee.
Except for a couple of productions who manage to interest my way too delicate taste, I rarely go to parties I don't perform at.
However, fact remains that I see at least one if not two different parties every week (and I make it a point of arriving early enough to hear at least one set and leaving as late as I can afford). So I see the bars with decks right in between the people, I see the small clubs, the larger venues, outdoors gatherings of all sizes and shapes and so on and so forth. This makes me a heavy dosage abuser by any criteria.
So maybe my perspective may not be the same as "true-type-crowd" (most times !!!) but still is a damn wide one. no ?

Smaller, less commercialized parties still exist today, and just as "once upon a time" you need to dig hard to find them. Very true to say that these remain the true keepers of the spirit and more than that, the true underground flourish of new sounds and artists.
Larger gatherings are more public, duh, and so easier to find. And actually the ones being most reviewed here. Going to one of these and saying "wow, that was commercial" is a bit naive, mean and mostly self inflicted.
kinda like a beaten wife who doesn't understand why her beloved hubby kicks her in the head after she comes back the third time around ("but he loves me") .


Believe me, I was exactly where you are, before I understood there is a clear division, and I can tell you exactly when and where I understood it; It was in a party where Tim Healy was brought to TA and I was tremendously excited. Long story short, Tim was placed in between two full on "djs" (and the rightful owners of the term poza) and was given one hour to go on with his "strangeness" and that was it. That's what I spent a lot of money and energy for. My disappointment was HUGE. I felt cheated. And I was. But no one gave a f$@k. as if it was normal.
Today I view those things as "normal" in their own domain. They are the true meaning of matrix. Some people are just meant to be abused, I guess. Or maybe I can say that the people who choose these events don't really care about the same things I care about. And that is Very (!) ok with me. Bottoms line is that It doesn't bother me and my truth, I just learned how to use my own shield to block the harm from me.

Mostly, and this is the big one, I fail to see how writing : "one word would suffice: "Poza" " could be in retrospect thought of as "constructive" (or even proper criticism). You think all those "poza" people (and bro, I am not in any way blind, poza is everywhere, only question worth asking is "is it in you") will read this thread and abandon their devious ways ?
Personally I think not. And so I let the poza live besides me, I notice it but pay very little attention to it. Mostly I use it as good basis for humor.

psy-clone did nail it. Complaining is the way of our generation. But complaining is in no way constructive. Doing, changing, spreading true thoughts and actions is !
And no... I am not a goddamn hippy

Ok, maybe just a bit (but I shave my armpits)

In the end of the day you have the right, the ability and means to support or not support poza, and to support or not support the un-poza. You can go to a specific party or not go to another. That is your consumer power. Upper hand is by all means yours. We just forget to use it. Because it's comfortable, approachable and easy to not try hard. Isn't it always the case ?
Low grade and cheap are always right here at your doorstep. Just reach out and it's yours.
High end, meaningful and long lasting is what I look for. I believe it's available too. At least I see it. Do I have pink glasses on ?

p.s. someone should revoke my right to enter forums the day after a gig. The lack of sleep combined with alcohol fumes turns me into an endless talker.

On 2010-06-26 05:10, Invisible_Landscape wrote:
Bohemian clan fighting Yatooshing and Disgusted Arsim. and listining to the most creative electronic music in our generation.