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Iron madness - is he a CopyCat ? ? ?
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High Pulse
Darkpsy
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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 22:24
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yeah this is really a lack of no idead to make sommething like this , i arned several time iron he can be a good musician if he want , but not copying exact styles from this or that one  this is bad , for azax since is style is like been reproduzed, and its what caracterize AZAX style .. so i hope this will continue like this , but like i use to say each monkey on is own three !!!!
so this is not goood !!!
think a bit !!
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Yuli
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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 23:22
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On 2006-01-25 19:37, saar wrote:
for tsabeat u r making music for maybe 10 years and the only place pepole see u is on isratrance talking shit abuot other pepole. azax is a king and u cant argue with that the guy plays in boom soulclipse and every big festival around so have some respect for the guy
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Saar and everyone else that think that playing in hot shot festivals means u made it big time... You are all FOOLS
If u were right in what u r saying then I must say Van Gogh, Beethoven and Archimedes did not make it, because at the time they made their revelations no one could care less about them
Making it bigtime means that after 100 years ppl still remember and respect your art.
Too bad that most of the scene's 'artists' of today are teenagers that success for them is how many festivals one plays in one summer and how much $$$ he gets per gig.
That is the face of most of yer precious Trance Scene today Saar
My 2 paisa
PS: I released more than 100 tracks in my years of activity so u cant disregard me so easily - and no I dont play hot shot Festivals during the summer - I wouldnt mind tho A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
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Yuli
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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 23:29
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Oh and btw back to the subject
Never in my life it came to my mind to take a partiture of already written piece of music and copy it to my creation. I am a great admirer of Jimmy Page and never I would even dare to take one of his riffs to my track.
For me, every artist should make something from his guts, and not from some band's textbook
A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 02:59
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who cares...i only read one post from this thread..
but ironmadness usualy has some veru ''russian style tracks i dont like but his track on dirty south was insane. |
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etnarama
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 04:52
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sam i am
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 06:33
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let me tell you somethink ,for 20 years iam listen to what is produced in trancemusic and believe me : We are more or less all Copycats! |
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I'm glad *someone* said it!!!
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try to be diffrent in your music and try find new ways ,thats holding this music alive fresh and intresting . never use the same breaks and samples again if you used tham befor ,so your tracks will be allway s original ! |
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^^^ 
P. S. Love "The Messenger" 
new Hadal Drop album on the way
if you don't have the last one get in touch |
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 08:18
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On 2006-01-25 19:37, saar wrote:
for tsabeat u r making music for maybe 10 years and the only place pepole see u is on isratrance talking shit abuot other pepole. azax is a king and u cant argue with that the guy plays in boom soulclipse and every big festival around so have some respect for the guy
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what happen basted too?
http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,84.sm
i dont remember doof rec,mistress of evil,parvati rec., etc. realese suomi music.. or am i wrong mr saar
anyhow yuli sure is right , most of the best artists did not get recognition in their life time. may be the world not always ready for what some have in mind
and sam.. i think you can stop realese music just buy 1-2 cd's u have it all no?
in some weird way i did find scozbor not copy of anything.even great original stuff. i believe u also.
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Ankur
Ankur / Virgin Suicide
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 09:33
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IRON MADNESS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! 
and everybody whos says something els should try do make a same quality trk wich is same rocking, then i will start to listen to such a bullshit. 
and i think also wtf the age metter?????
i would be happy if i had started making sound with 15 years, then i would make maby music in the same quality then ziv.
and his english, can somebody tell me what is the point about even if he coulnt speak at all i still would like his music, and also i spoke often with him and meet maaaaaaaaany ppl with a mush worther english.
come on guys plz start thinking befor u write this kind of crap!!!!!
booom
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 11:28
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Ankur i think tsabeat showed ya that this kind of track can be done in like 1 hour or so
when all u need to do is fit sounds to already made sequenses from midi file all u left to do is put some 4x4 kick and abit of percs make some stupid brakes every 32 kicks and track is done
then u can spend on sound quality more like 2 hours and u ready to release another "crapy killer" track
i never waste my time to hear no iron madness and no ajax syndrome tracks (dont like music for retards sorry) but i know general wave of this kind of music
and tzab...
i also use midi files sometimes
its always fun..
remixing beatlejuice ,worms theme,all kind of celt music, even one track remixed from bosa-nova midi file....
those kind of melodies r hard for me to write (not enough musical education) but with midi files i dont have this limitation...
if i have something in my mind that i cant write but i find a midi with same element i rip it without thinking twice
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2P507209LQYL128298PGS04R0F
this one track made from 5 different midi files from 5 different genres.....
just used some elements to create something new
u should try that also man
its fun
Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 12:34
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Well its true his biggest influence is azax syndrome.. but he does his little originality to his own tracks... and after all he has to.. if he didnt it would be a complete copy and no label would allow such a release. Anyway, all you retards need to mellow down.. if people like what he's making so be it.. i sense alot of burning jealousy around ..
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vegetal
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 13:42
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Saar and everyone else that think that playing in hot shot festivals means u made it big time... You are all FOOLS
If u were right in what u r saying then I must say Van Gogh, Beethoven and Archimedes did not make it, because at the time they made their revelations no one could care less about them |
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Thank you Yuli! exactly my thoughts,
The day you equal playing at festivals or how much money you get for a gig to the term Success, i give up my hope for music, and my last hope for humanity!
I haven´t heard "gates of hell" or "unconcious mind" so i have no idea if the melodies or structure are the same, but if the melodies and structure are the same ( 1:1 ).
Let me ask you guys this.
Is this what we want to listen to? Do we want to reinvent the wheel again ?
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How do you know that no label whould release it, to know its a copycat you need to know the original track, if you don´t, you assume that its the artist own inspiration and ideas that reflects the track. And if you like it you release it right ?
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I think, (notice that I think,i assume) that if you are very young and create music,maybe you haven´t seen or heard about the unwritten laws in music, just a thought!
To wrap it up now i say.
A copycat to me is the lowest of the low! |
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Datakult
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 14:36
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iron madness is a copy cat of azax syndrome
azax syndrome is a copy cat of digital talk
digital talk is a copy cat of gms
then looks like we have a nice family tree here
like said jorg most of new young artists
try to make music the same style that the (old?) artists they used to listen to
original trance artists by having unique style created their own school of sounds,born from their fans
because of this we got many subgenres in psytrance today
i think most of artists are copycat of other artists what ever genre it is,may it be trance techno harcore electro house dnb,industrial,classical,ethnic and whatever,even if they didnt notice themselves
repeating the the style they like,adding their feelings,and improving the technique
nothing more
there should be no shame
nothing is new
by itself trance is a copy cat of many musical genres,
and adding a kick doesnt make trance even original
that's just addin some tribal touch with more
actual technology
we are all part of the same family
remixing the same story for ever
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etnarama
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 15:03
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Iron Madness
Iron Madness
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 15:07
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On 2006-01-24 23:24, Serge wrote:
im listening a while to this guy's work...
and i couldnt avoid the thought that this guy is STEALLING melodies and ideas from azax syndrom's music...
im not talking about influence, im talking about PURE copy !!
i heard some trax that really have Same lines, and same structure ...
especially after hearing iron madness - gates of hell, its a 1 by 1 copy of azax syndrom - unconcious mind !!
this is not nice thing to do !!
so mr. iron CRAPness , stop stealling other ppl's ideas, and start making your own !!
what u think ppl ? ?
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hello miss AZAX girl frind or some close frind...
its not the first time that u trying to do some din...
any way if u think that i have time to read ur bullshit words so u have mistake...
and if u think that its will irritate me so u have mistake...
many ppl's here like jorge and datakult answerd to ur quastion...
hope u got it and u now satisfied...
any way i can open my mouth and to fling my words... but i choiced to save it to my self... the best way i think...
if u whant to say somthing personality miss AZAX GIRL FRIND!!! so u can send e-mail:
ironmadness@beyondlogic.net
have a nice week... |
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Mahamudra (Sagiv)
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 16:08
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On 2006-01-25 12:06, tsabeat wrote:
my opinion on this hole thing...
trancellica - puster of muppets
http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GY38G4VYIXMP1G5MEUZYRW5Q9
made in 10-15 minutes and im sorry if someone spend more time to make stupid lines/breaks like this.
offcourse in many hours it can sound better and have better mix and better presets i just used fruity loops demo i have on this computer to prove my point of un nessecery allready realesed midi filez
and i think the original song (also slayer) sound better by the original producers.
and one more small point.. we realesed just last week trax together on same cd. may be it is pritty close to my dark project. (time for suomi track haha - this topic makes me remember why i like texas faggott)
from total diffrent topic:
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On 2006-01-23 12:39, Rishi wrote:
composing is the Intuitive skill , artistic . Going where no one went before
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sorry tsabeat but i cant understand ur point, lil' help maybe?
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