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Iron madness - is he a CopyCat ? ? ?

Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 12:06


my opinion on this hole thing...

trancellica - puster of muppets

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GY38G4VYIXMP1G5MEUZYRW5Q9

made in 10-15 minutes and im sorry if someone spend more time to make stupid lines/breaks like this.
offcourse in many hours it can sound better and have better mix and better presets i just used fruity loops demo i have on this computer to prove my point of un nessecery allready realesed midi filez

and i think the original song (also slayer) sound better by the original producers.

and one more small point.. we realesed just last week trax together on same cd. may be it is pritty close to my dark project. (time for suomi track haha - this topic makes me remember why i like texas faggott)

from total diffrent topic:
Quote:

On 2006-01-23 12:39, Rishi wrote:
composing is the Intuitive skill , artistic . Going where no one went before


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neuromantik
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 12:33
Serge: don't you think you're being a little hard? I agree that Iron Madness' tracks show some azax influences but they aren't strait copies.

And why does this all of a sudden shock you? Have you been living in a hole these past 5 years?!? There are SO many artists which carbon copy others it's not even funny, and most of them are israeli (gataka, cyber cartel, dynamic, xnoize, alien project, psydrop). Now I'm not dissing these artists, but IMO all of these artists share similar structures, melodies, breaks and buildups, and use of samples, and gee you know what in electronic music THAT'S ALL THERE IS!!

So cut your complaining, if you don't like IM's music don't buy it, as a matter of fact, I don't recall
Iron Madness - Gates of Hell ever being released so quit your MP3 whoring and try BUYING some music, then you can insult IM to your friends, see if anybody cares.
shivajoerg
Shiva Joerg

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 12:56

let me tell you somethink ,for 20 years iam listen to what is produced in trancemusic and believe me : We are more or less all Copycats!
ther is 10000 of ppl making music and a lot of kids choose what they like the most and try to sound like this ! but i figure out they mostly not stay with that,they change by them self!
if young artist are copying your music ,it means that you a Trance -Hero !!!
That means not that i like that copy storys ,but its a fact!!
Also a big aspect is , that everybody uses the same vsts and that makes Lead sounds often very simiular to others!

My Tip :

try to be diffrent in your music and try find new ways ,thats holding this music alive fresh and intresting . never use the same breaks and samples again if you used tham befor ,so your tracks will be allway s original !

shivajoerg
Stregone
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 14:48
words fo wisdom
LiBiDo


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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 17:11
you should be a shame of your selfs!!!!
its one thing to not like his music or to think that he is a coicat.
but to criticise his english and his age?!!?!?! grow up!!!!!

i happend to kmow this guy closely, he is very talented and successful.

to all of you wicked envy ppl i can only say
in the name of ziv : bite me!!!!
mocsh


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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 18:52
first of all his album name shows how stupid the guy is...."Sloughter Shiver" .....Its slaughter....
second of all tsabeat that was the lamest try on making a cover i have nothing bad to say about soumi trance but that sounds like bad soumi trance...the worst...
third , where is the crapness himself...i want to hear him say...I DO NOT COPY FROM AZAX....cummon, he seems to answer on topics relating him really quick ....i wonder why we havent seen a reaction from him....hmmmmm..
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

Started Topics :  236
Posts :  6106
Posted : Jan 25, 2006 18:53
Shiva Joerg:
Are you saying that (you and) Shiva Shidapu (Erez) was a "copycat"? .. That might be, but it sure does sound original and "real" in my ears.

But of course, we're all copycats when we get down to the facts. You where a baby, copying your parents ect. This went on until you became "independent as a young teenager and started to copy each other, media and other influences. Either you like it or not. It happens. No one is original, but some goes their own way and creates a style that is more original then others. So originality does not exist. It's just that some are more original then others. Just common logic.

But all in all it doesn’t matter if your "original" or not, as long as it's real and works on a trip imo. Orbital is very original, but even they are copycats when you get down to the facts. Everyone is inspired by something, either it's music like Beethoven or nature. You know what I mean?

EDIT: Shiva Jorg, is that you? .. If so, why the spelling?

Btw. Boards Of Canada is one of the most original bands I've heard. ..No?
LiBiDo


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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 19:16
Quote:

On 2006-01-25 18:52, mocsh wrote:
i wonder why we havent seen a reaction from him....hmmmmm..




maybe because this topic is below his level...
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 19:19

Quote:

On 2006-01-25 19:16, LiBiDo wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-01-25 18:52, mocsh wrote:
i wonder why we havent seen a reaction from him....hmmmmm..




maybe because this topic is below his level...



Your very new, you must know him very well as you said above. So I guess he sendt you to "protect" him?
.. I dont know his music, so I wount judge at all. Just a remark.
shroomz
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 19:23
All I can say is
Azax rocks ..
Ziv rocks equally hard..
I can compare the rocking part ..
But for anything else besides that ..
No comments ..

"A wise person knows that there is something to be learned from everyone. "           'Let's meet on the Otherworld - let's speak about the unspeakable'
saar
Abomination

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 19:37
for tsabeat u r making music for maybe 10 years and the only place pepole see u is on isratrance talking shit abuot other pepole. azax is a king and u cant argue with that the guy plays in boom soulclipse and every big festival around so have some respect for the guy
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 19:42
Many of my biggest admiration of psyacts never or rarly play at big festivals. Does that make them bad? .. jheeze. So what if he/they play at festivals. It doesnt automaticly make them killah great. Ok, maybe killah, but nut great. But yes, respect for reaching far in the new scene. Absolutely.
Iron Madness
Iron Madness

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 19:59
hmm i belive that its more one from the justices
NTD

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 21:21
Quote:

On 2006-01-25 19:37, saar wrote:
for tsabeat u r making music for maybe 10 years and the only place pepole see u is on isratrance talking shit abuot other pepole. azax is a king and u cant argue with that the guy plays in boom soulclipse and every big festival around so have some respect for the guy




with all respect to regev and the big events he plays, tsabeat was right, those guys use midi files of slayer (which they d/l), edit them , add a kick and some synths, change the name and release it.

i have nothing against this attitude, but acting like its your track when half the lines some midi nerd did and u d/l it , then pretend its all your original music...thats a bit lame imo
LiBiDo


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Posts :  33
Posted : Jan 25, 2006 21:36
Quote:

On 2006-01-25 19:19, Kire-naj wrote:
So I guess he sendt you to "protect" him?
.. I dont know his music, so I wount judge



yeh... im his body gard
get real!
i just know the guy and i dont like you
judge him ,or any one else, in such
disrespect. even criticism should by tastfull
and founded.
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