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				| shivajoerg Shiva Joerg
 
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 Posted : Jan 23, 2006 20:51
 
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						| hey guys   i thoot iam not  a member  anymore  so  a  friend  told  a  friend  to  post    shivajoerg the  illuminatie  under  promotional  .now its not ther  anymore  and  i cant find it  nowhere ? can you tell me  where  did  you moved it  ? 
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 shivajoerg
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				| Surrender IsraTrance Team
 
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 Posted : Jan 23, 2006 22:37
 
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						| hi shivajoerg, i deleted your topic because it contains strong political ideas and texts.  in our guidelines we ask users upon registration not to post political texts. i dont personally have a problem with your topic, but as an idea - it opens a precedent for any future political discussions to go on and this is not what we are interested in here. i apologize if it seems like anything personal against you or your art has taken place.... please dont view like that because it is not my intention.
 i simply beleive that people will be able to use this example in the future to post any political texts on the forum... that was the rational behind the moderation.
 here is a link to the guidelines page:
 http://forum.isratrance.com/guideline.html
              "On the other hand, you have different fingers." http://myspace.com/gadimon
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				| daksinamurti IsraTrance Full Member
 
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 Posted : Jan 24, 2006 04:35
 
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						| well why couldnt you just lock the topic and explain the reasons ... but i think its not the right way just to delete... and i also think that ppl would have been interested in the clip  and whats wrong with a serious discussion?? ... and for sure this video is somehow trance related  and on the other hand trance is related to politcs somehow... well maybe its time for isratrance to open a forum for more serious discussions ... no offence just a suggestion ... 
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 daksi
 
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				| MALDEK 
 
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 Posted : Jan 24, 2006 05:11
 
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						| This is so sad, we dont have free expresion not eaven in the trance comunity, the whole world is full of restrictions, and it seems that the cancer has taken over also our scene, i remember the meaning of trance music full of sadness wich day by day becomes more and more like a pop scene, and i deeply believe its our fault for letting it happen, we are in a world that will conspire no matter what to make us fall asleep and we are letting it happen in our scene, shiva joerg is someone who has always stood up for the real meaning of trance music and the awakening of the people i think its totally unrespectfull to take out hes post, it was a good post but lately we cant stand controversy , its better to keep it quiet , its easier no???  he doesnt belong to any politic sides and people where replying in an organized way, this video is part of the trance scene, a big name in trance music produced it , it is hes material and he shall not be censured in a trance forum. Shiva Joerg  im really proud of you for not leting the dream of a pop world take over you. big kiss
 
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				| ovnimoon Ovnimoon
 
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 Posted : Jan 24, 2006 05:58
 
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						| when people say the truth of some situation 
 is normal people  try to make the silence..
 
 is a bad conduct...
 
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				| Moonsun IsraTrance Full Member
 
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 Posted : Jan 24, 2006 06:04
 
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						| I think the video was good ,and giving a point ,in todays life,,,its also a trance project which states our sceene,,there was no point in delliting..that was wrong.. |  
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				| Surrender IsraTrance Team
 
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 Posted : Jan 24, 2006 08:07
 
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						| i wasnt shutting anyone up for their opinion... the guidelines were not made up yesterday either. they have been the same for many many years here...  its nothing new that we dont wish to have politics. if we make this an exception - whats to stop future political topics from occuring? whats to stop people from posting important messages about israeli/palestinian conflict? or any other political/religous conflict going on in our world? the video was an artistic expression of s.joerg - perhaps deleting it wasnt the best idea.. i will restore it and ask the mods to keep an eye on it since it is rather sensitive.
 
 
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