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Hungry for Power...

manu
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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 12:24
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I allways thought power - is emotion-shattering music - powerful - breathtaking etc...




thats what power means for me too.. it should invoke your feelings deep inside.. power is not just powerful heavy beats.. power in relevance of energy which comes from within.
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 12:27
hehe pplz just want to dance till they fall of their feet.. thats why power music got all over the scene..
when pplz look for emotion in parties the music was different.           www.sattelbattle.com
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Kaz
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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 12:33
Tsabeat: then how do you explain that full-on/psy from 1998-1999 is considered by most people who actually listened to it (like Uncle Bob with his comment that needs to be censored, but would be my exact answer a year or two ago) way more 'powerful' than modern full-on?

It's easy talking in slogans, but I have yet heard one proper explanation for this phenomena. Power in music is just someone with a lot of energy to release listening to music that really moves him. If it's four-on-the-floor, then dancing is how the music moves, but this can be as relevant to hard-house as it is to psytrance... and that's why some people will dance harder to cheesy hard-house than to psytrance. It's not about power, it's about people listening to music that makes them move, if not on the dancefloor, than on the inside.

In short - either you like it or you don't. The rest is just excuses.          http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Psilocibino
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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 16:55
hi trip..
i think ppl want powerfull tracks because they want to dance till they fall and are always lookin for somethin even harder!! I feel power either in Full-on or in Chill, because power (energy) can come in a faster or in a slowly way!..for me i don't think power as anything to do whith hard beats or higher bpm's, it's all a matter of conscious and how do you explore whith your mind what you are listenin whith your ears..
sometimes Chill_Out is so POWERFULL, and full-on so WEAKY and empty!!

peace..
k300


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Posted : Jul 3, 2004 12:36
Psilocibino - I agree with you - I think the Power is the ability to "translate" or interpretation of the music.
For me - I don't like "Power Trance" for the main lines I see in it is mostly the very basic melodies, a very catchy bassline, a very expected development....

The real power for me comes to real when the music is unexpected from a head - that what makes good chillout music for me - as well as trance, when it's complicated - I feel like I have more to listen to - instead of a catchy easy-listening tune that would me bored so soon...

Problem is, IMO, that most artist look for the music that sales, instead of creating and innovating something NEW of their own, they rather recycle the music they already know ppl would like to dance to....
And here we are stuck - because if the artists keep this line and most new music sound predictable and familiar -we have only Power Trance, and not as many individual trance creations

Cheers - k.



Psilocibino
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Posted : Jul 3, 2004 17:32
k300, we're in the same line here
good and original music is beeing replaced by an "established" format (powerfull kick, bass, development), and there is no more space for criativity... i think producers should innovate more, trying to find new ways of sound, new rithyms and news ways of makin us DREAM!
for me, music is only psycadelic when she makes my mind go to an unexplored state of high, and most of trance nowadays don't!!
but we must always keep on dancin..
Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Jul 3, 2004 21:31
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On 2004-07-03 17:32, Psilocibino wrote:
but we must always keep on dancin..



this is one blue eyed and naive comment, sorry.
if you will keep on dancing to whatever sh*te the dj plays, do you think the producers will think more about the music and produce something really sophisticated?
there are people who dont need gold when silver is enough, and maybe this world is just too blended by its standards for not being able to recognize the magnificient anymore.          Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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Psilocibino
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Posted : Jul 3, 2004 21:43
anakoluth got your point, but i didn't meen dance "to whatever sh*t the dj plays", i mean dance with the music you like most, at home, at a party, anywhere.....
of course i don't dance if i don't like the music....(probably i will light another and wait till i ear some good stuff..he,he)

i agree with the rest of your post....

::peace::

Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Jul 3, 2004 21:56
good to hear i misunderstood, thanks for tidying up here. and your def. right, of course you should dance to good music           Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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urkynaohmdajay


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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 01:53
Power is the botton on the front of my amplifier

But it seems idiots have always been in power. And those idiots they can't understand music, they can't understand love, they can't understand beauty, they can't understand art,
-- but they pretend that they are the most intelligent people in the world because they have the power.
May the force be with you and use your power wisely .......           You have not gone far away, they have gone far away and they have been going on and on for millions of years. The distance between the real man and the man that exists in the world has become almost unbridgeable. They are so far away from their own realit
volvox box
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Posted : Jul 15, 2004 03:27
Trippie,
There is always some real musicheadz that apriciate good music, dont worry about the horde they enjoy the sound of their stompedo !
slomi
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Posted : Jul 15, 2004 05:07
people start use the word Power because not everything that have power means full on... power is much nicer and globalic word!

it's about the time to leave the "full on" stigma behind us and use some professional words to describe the music, maybe that's way there won't be one mainstream style! and maybe artists will have different power in their music... and not the usual power of full on... it became boring...


fuck that "full on" phrase!
get rid of it!

time to grow...

PS - I think this deserved or at least new thread! "stop say full on, stop classify in to small sub genre!"
          " You were born original... Don't die a copy.. "
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Half of the cup is full...And the other half is on its way up...
deejayridoo
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 25, 2004 23:10
slomi, you´re right. i´ll do it, if you didn´t.
i personally speak of profound music. i´m speaking of musi that is challenging - the opposite of easy to understand and predictable music like shopping mall cheesy crap. in the case of our music, i´d say that wether it is psychedelic, or it is something elese.
of course it is only in the eyes of the beholder, what he/ she feels to be psychedelic, but you can definitely separate shallow/ superficial music from the music which has been composed to be listened attentively at...
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