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bubble
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 00:45
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hope thats the end of this useless discussion.
good night
Peace and respect to everyone no matter what they eat 
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smorphelia8
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 11:53
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On 2008-03-04 00:45, bubble wrote:
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Peace and respect to everyone no matter what they eat
EXACTLY..........CAZZO
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propellerheed
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 18:21
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On 2008-03-04 00:45, bubble wrote:
hope thats the end of this useless discussion.
good night
Peace and respect to everyone no matter what they eat
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well said sir.
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catfysh
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 00:49
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Hi Bubble,
Can't see the tickets on sale at either of these sites?
Peace & Pineapples
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*matahari*
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 09:29
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Maybe because they go on sale from the 1st of April? 
Tickets:
From April 1 until May 31 --> 50 EURO
From June 1 Until July 31 --> 60 EURO
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Hi Bubble,
Can't see the tickets on sale at either of these sites?
Peace & Pineapples
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Martinlivet
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 13:15
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On 2008-03-04 00:45, bubble wrote:
hope thats the end of this useless discussion.
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Nothing in life is useless.. really. And if people dicuss walues and how to all make a brighter, more loving and spiritual way of life for us all. How is that useless?
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Peace and respect to everyone no matter what they eat
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Of course. But dont call the plane of existence were we kill and eat others, for spiritual.. It is as far from spiritual and in to darkness and separation one could ever come in the whole entire universe. |
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Psybaba Records
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 14:28
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On 2008-03-04 00:45, bubble wrote:
hope thats the end of this useless discussion.
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Nothing in life is useless.. really. And if people dicuss walues and how to all make a brighter, more loving and spiritual way of life for us all. How is that useless?
Martin!
Useless, or more like pointless, because you see the matter from only one specific point of view.
I respect everyone's decision about what she/he eats. (If i have vegetarian friends in my house, i cook for them separately) I see and respect their food-habits, and they don't judge me because of mines. No matter how much you try, you can't make a vegetrian world, cause human got used to meat since the ancient-tribal times. I think the more realistic solution is that we (meat-eaters) try not to support the animal growing-tormenting factories, because that is not the only way for having meat.
I don't really see the difference between groiwing a plan with respect and than eat it, and breeding an animal with respect and than eat it. Both are earthlings, and I think all what is matters that how we tread them in their lifes.
http://www.themeatrix.com/
I got this link from a vegetarian friend of mine who doesn't eat meat because of his religion, but he understands that we are different...Maybe you should try to understand also.
Peace
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OZORA 2008 WILL ROCK!!!
 DOUBLE BABA is OUT!!!!
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Martinlivet
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 15:25
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Martin!
Useless, or more like pointless, because you see the matter from only one specific point of view.
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Sorry, but i dont. I just write about it from this perspective. I´ve been a meat eater for my first, almost, 20 years in life. Then i got grown up enough to make a way of life in harmony with my true nature instead of the world around me.. So i know all about it.
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I respect everyone's decision about what she/he eats. (If i have vegetarian friends in my house, i cook for them separately) I see and respect their food-habits, and they don't judge me because of mines. No matter how much you try, you can't make a vegetrian world, cause human got used to meat since the ancient-tribal times.
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Of cource i respect that everyone is the way they are,. how could they not be? A tiger is a tiger... But if you see what i write it is not about not respecting or judging or even trying to make a vegetarian world. The world will do that greatly anyay, everyone will get the returning effects of their way of life, and if its about hurting others they will hurt until their heart understands. So thats not my or anyone elses responsebility. But from the logic you are using one shouldent think we should stop raping and murdering eachother either, since we always have?
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I think the more realistic solution is that we (meat-eaters)try not support the animal growing-tormenting factories, because that is not the only way for having meat.
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In my view its just a tiny bit better couse killing is killing,..
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I don't really see the difference between groiwing a plan with respect and than eat it, and breeding an animal with respect and than eat it. Both are earthlings, and I think all what is matters that how we tread them in their lifes.
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As i wrote earlier: Animals will conciously fight for there life if u try to hurt them in any way (As we would). Plants can be argued to have some type of trace or hint of a waken counciosness, probably they can have som vague impression of pleasure and discomfort. (Tough not att all like when we have a hint of something, couse we have all our feelings and intelligence to make something more of that vague impression.) Plants dont have this awaken conscious ability to percive life.
Also many plants are designed to be eaten; they are tasty and smell and look good, and they do spread there seeds and survive this way. The dont have any defences to run away or awoid this fate and actually you can call it their, will, or even better, purpouse, to bee eaten.
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http://www.themeatrix.com/
I got this link from a vegetarian friend of mine who doesn't eat meat because of his religion, but he understands that we are different...Maybe you should try to understand also.
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I do UNDERSTAND. Its ok. Do what you want. It all comes back to you anyway. But to call this spiritual is hypocracy or at very best lack of knowledge. I would´t care about if you bring goddamn human flesh to eat at the festival its not my buisness. BUT: If u are not loving u are NOT spiritiual in any sense of the word,. And thats ok. Everything is ok. But calling a festival spiritual and sell the bodies of murdered animals is not sensible or coherent at all.
(To call it some pagan/hedonistic gathering or something would maby)
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Back to the main subject:
OZORA 2008 WILL ROCK!!!
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Im sure it will.. Fore some ;-)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1282796533661048967
(the movie earthlings)
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propellerheed
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 18:15
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YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.
there is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING more dull and tedious than a vegetarian who feels the need to preach their virtues on others.
you're not planning any surmons by the goulash queue are you?! |
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Goaalex
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 20:34
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Yea More GREEN and better meat on Ozora(which is a beautiful festival)....
Actually we are a Group of nearly 12 people that Unfort. Don't choose the ozora this year. Our 2 reasons.
Verry Verry Bad Organizers! Listen and FOCUS...They didn't tell us about the RIVER that suddently came.. and we lost Nearly everything.... Money, passport's etc. It could have been SO easy just to say, if you move up to the hills you wont have any problems, but maybe the organizers where to stooned to Rise up???? and tell 100 people in the valley that If it's gonna rain, this place is turning into A RIVER, You should be happy that people wont Dieing this year....! THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!
I know i'am on a festival and that i have Responsability... But you have it asswell.... Just for some good Karma.
After 3 years on ozora I didn't found the reality.. sorry.
But good Luck, Love & more light !!!
The food was not a gift from Kali thats for sure. I know they can cook in Hungary! |
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catfysh
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 21:32
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On 2008-03-05 09:29, *matahari* wrote:
Maybe because they go on sale from the 1st of April?
Tickets:
From April 1 until May 31 --> 50 EURO
From June 1 Until July 31 --> 60 EURO
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Hi Bubble,
Can't see the tickets on sale at either of these sites?
Peace & Pineapples
C
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Haha. Yeah that might be why! Cheers for pointing out the obvious |
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*matahari*
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Posted : Mar 6, 2008 14:40
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On 2008-03-05 20:34, Goaalex wrote:
Yea More GREEN and better meat on Ozora(which is a beautiful festival)....
Actually we are a Group of nearly 12 people that Unfort. Don't choose the ozora this year. Our 2 reasons.
Verry Verry Bad Organizers! Listen and FOCUS...They didn't tell us about the RIVER that suddently came.. and we lost Nearly everything.... Money, passport's etc. It could have been SO easy just to say, if you move up to the hills you wont have any problems, but maybe the organizers where to stooned to Rise up???? and tell 100 people in the valley that If it's gonna rain, this place is turning into A RIVER, You should be happy that people wont Dieing this year....! THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!
I know i'am on a festival and that i have Responsability... But you have it asswell.... Just for some good Karma.
After 3 years on ozora I didn't found the reality.. sorry.
But good Luck, Love & more light !!!
The food was not a gift from Kali thats for sure. I know they can cook in Hungary!
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I am very sorry to hear that some of you have suffered during the rain... But to blame the organisers for the "monsoons" there that we have never witnessed before is not right. And let me tell you the whole team put maximum effort to keep the festival going inspite of the elements. Which means nothing like the behaviour you mention... but barely sleeping for days...
And another fact that you might not be aware of - the villages next to site were completely flooded as well. Houses/roads under water. So this was clearly not a "normal" rain...
Too bad nobody warned them when they built their houses... |
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Liquid_Angel
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Posted : Mar 6, 2008 17:26
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Well said 
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Alternative control
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Posted : Mar 6, 2008 18:55
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I must say , i have been to a lot of festivals arround the world , and OZORA has one of the most responsible organisers in Europe , lets say lately i havent seen anyone running and working during the festival , when already all the tickets are sold ,all ppl there , still working on the area , still fixing it ,covering roads becuase of the rain ,etc ,etc , really OZORA provides you everything that you as a normal human beeing need on such a festival !
My only ..litttle ,little,little minus , is that i think more of some morning psychedelic trance was needed , but never mind still gonna be super |
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Jesus Freak
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Posted : Mar 6, 2008 21:15
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- Indoor Party
- Outdoor Party
- Free Parking
- Free Water
- ChillOut Area
- Free Drink
- Free Entrance
- VJ
- Deco