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Gopendragon
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Posted : Dec 10, 2004 14:40
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Before 12 years sunrise zone organized party with techno house and jungle 3 stages inside
a ferryboat at limani pireus my first party,but my favorite music was punk-gothik-metal.after 2 years trancemedia brought goa trance in athens and then starting to like the music more and more and go to parties more and more remember voula beach parties and alimos, farm ,inofita ,and variboby without coops and expencive entrance.I realised that the rave scene in trance was more underground and the music decorations ,dress code people, in parties was ,and is, listen to the future.Then i discovered the ritual and spiritual think of parties and music I mean not only for fun but for awakening of the spirit, heal my ignorance,halucinogenic shamanic trips,and spiritual growth with psy-meditation...open your mind...not burn your mind.Now I m not going so often to parties but every summer looking for festivals and never stop to dance till i die.THATS WHY AND HOW I STARTED...PSYCHEDELICIOUS!!!
"namaskar"
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blupeter
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Posted : Dec 10, 2004 16:39
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Nice point of view ....
Are you living in Canada now ?? |
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tim@motion
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Posted : Dec 10, 2004 19:55
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Before 12 years parties started all over Greece.
The feeling was unique since it was a first time ever experience for all of us.
Cops were not there and organisers didn't give a shit about drugs and dealers at their parties.
The efects of this "don't give a shit" attitude and "get burned ppl" is still the heritage for the next generation of raves.
Let's make a step forward and change everything NOW .
You may search for festivals and that's good for you Gopendra.
But young ppl are going at parties (over 1500 ppl at neraida) and their first touch with raves is very important for their future within this culture.
So what i have to say is:
Thanks for fucking up the scene previous organisers ,promoters,fans....
Let's work all together to keep trance alive.
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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 10, 2004 20:18
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Yeah everybody before you Tim fucked up the scene and now you and your partners are coming to save the universe LOL
Come on man you are doing a good job in Thesaloniki but dont generalise everyone and everything.
Many people before you tried to help (and did help) the trance scene in our country so that now you are able to continue your good efforts and throw your events so please dont come in here pretending the saviour of trance,its not good for your image and not fair for the people before you.
Hope you get my point.
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astraldor
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Posted : Dec 11, 2004 00:13
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And trance scene in our country is helped by adding a security man at the door????
Come on …
In other countries, that trance scene is classes up from here, drugs are free for use. Or you imagine that at thessalonikis events don’t use drugs? I see many burned people there despite the security. You will see and at xmas event if you notice….
Young people don’t expect to go at your parties and find drugs. They find at school, but at your parties use them 
People’s first touch with raves is the news prog with mr evagelatos at tv.
As an old fun mr tim I cant accept that me or my friends have fuck up trance scene in Greece. But I know that we are they that we still support it, even if at past we had to give 3000 draxmes, and now we have to pay 30 euros.
Rload parties are the best parties that have taken place in Greece till today.
Anyway, my first party was at Alsos. I went there because I was invited from a friend. At my 5 - 6 first parties I remember almost everything expect the artists because I was totally – anideos - 
But I had great time, the music was fantastic so I begun listening trance everyday...
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tim@motion
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Posted : Dec 11, 2004 00:22
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I didn't use words such as "i" "me" etc
I said WE can try to make things better,and i ment all of us.
How did you came up, saying that i pretend the saviour of trance?Did i say that i make the good parties?Did i say that i am the best promoter 
Did i say that i will save the scene?
YOU are saying this Mike
I just said that we have to work ALL TOGETHER
to make things better.
I said let's make a step forward (i didn't say that i will make it alone)
Cause in my humble opinion.
Yes the scene is fucked up and we have to act rapidly.ALL OF US
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Dec 11, 2004 00:24
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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 11, 2004 02:08
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Tim you dont need to use a word in order to let it fly in the air,you know what i mean.
And in any case you said 'Thanks for fucking up the scene previous organisers ,promoters,fans....',i am a previous organiser,promoter and fan and also astraldor is a previous fan and also YOU are a previous fan and organiser and promoter and you know very very well what i mean dont you?
You cannot accuse people who are in this scene for many years for what this scene ended up like,you cannot accuse only them at least and for sure not all of them.
I am a relatively new guy in the scene,something like 6 years,but i know most of the people that are into psytrance since the beggining of it and i know all the stories and how things evolved,most of it at least.Everybody has added a small stone in this psy trance building,some have added less and some have added more but everybody has added something for sure.
The scene is fucked up like you said and this is the fault of the promoters,fault of fans that supported bad promoters and that didnt respect the good ones,fault of the media that introduce the psy trance scene as a drug festival or something,fault of the authorities that never payed attention to the organisers requests to speak with them and many many more.
BUT the thing that has fucked up the scene the most is drugs and i dont think that anyone can deny that,everything begins and ends in drugs when something goes wrong in parties.Its the drugs that give a bad name to our music.
Absolutzero very correctly said that people use drugs no matter the music but its easier to associate drugs with the psy trance culture so thats why the authorites track down these events.
We are all trying our best to keep this scene alive,some people make events,some people founded psy trance labels,some other make music,some other go often to parties and so on.
We should all try our best and avoid accusing the others for how the scene ended up today like you are doing Tim,this will not help us at all anyway,except creating some funny disputes into this forum and give us some moments of good laugh.
After all Tim even you and me 'helped' more or less destroying the scene in our country no?We didnt intended to do such a thing but our actions had bad results for the scene and thats what counts in the end.
We should all learn from our mistakes (like you did with a personal problem that you had and thats something you should really be proud of) and use our little knowledge and big will to make things better.
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tim@motion
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Posted : Dec 11, 2004 06:28
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Now this is a very mature point of view and way of thinking...
You are right that all of us one way or another let things lead this scene to the edge of the blade.
Yes i am a fan,i will always be...i just want to believe that i have learned from my own faults.
Astraldor,the security are 20 not one 
You maybe came at neraida and since you did,i don't have to tell you how much effort they put against drugs.I know that they will not "save the scene" but i also know that they have a very good percentage of success regarding their mission...
I know that kids will find drugs at school,but i know that they will not find a leaflet informing them about the xtc and lsd destructive effects there.BUT i am glad that they will find it at a party entrance...
I know that i was paying 4000 drs in 1996 at acid for one guest.And i think that 30 euros for 6-7 international artists on two stages is fair enough in 2004-05...
What i am trying to say is that step by step,we can take each subject seperately,and try to put an effort in order to develop the scene, and reach a positive outcome.
This may take years,but,once more i am saying that ALL of us have to work and have faith.
I will not agree with you about the trance scene in other countries where drug use is free.You know that you can not compare Greece with souch countries.Since we live here, we have to respect the culture of our homeland,and adjust the trance scene to the Greek reality .I think that this will do the trick.
Ontopic now
I started going at parties since 1996.Don't ask where...ACID was the place
My whole life changed within 3 months.All the rest is a big story that does not concern the ppl of this forum.
Rave is magic.It is a state of mind and action.A source of the most extreme form of good and/or evil...IMO it is a field, where within the next years, plenty of ppl will have the chance to make their living out of it (musicians,graphic designers,clothe designers,audio visual efects,promoters...and hundrends of more activities...just leave your imagination and it will go out
Now it will be my fault to say it once more?
Does it worth it to allow drugs ruin this beautiful image?
Or is it just me who i can not face the truth and just living in a stupid dream?
well...hmmm
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Dec 11, 2004 17:34
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On 2004-12-10 16:39, blupeter wrote:
Nice point of view ....
Are you living in Canada now ??
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no I live in Greece but Canada lives inside me.
Our TRIBE needs rewunion and projection in any way.
Drugs are not the only fake think in the scene MONEY is the problem...
We afraid even our own shadow.
That period we passing through now in trance scene is not the best but thats not bad dont let fashion and trendy style be more psychedic trance.Now the scene starts again to be more underground.
Thing everything with a positive vibe and love to solve any problem that stops the progress.Now is obvious to see more clear who is pure authentic member of the tribe because as the years passing other people feel bore or afraid of other people what the y would say about our tribe, bad words,we dont have to shy and hide for what we are,we must feel proud of our culture or the universal religion of our "TRIBE"!!!
LOVE PEACE AND UNITY
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movek
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Posted : Dec 12, 2004 04:15
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On 2004-12-11 00:22, tim-X-treme wrote:
I didn't use words such as "i" "me" etc
I said WE can try to make things better,and i ment all of us.
I just said that we have to work ALL TOGETHER
to make things better.
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you don't have just to say it tim
you have to enforce it with acts
Your fight with other party promosion teams is well known.
This isn't good for our party scene!
However you do a great job this year,great parties,great bookings!
Keep up!
T o be on topic my first contact with a real trance party was back to 1999.
Since then I can tell you I'm a party animal 
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movek
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Posted : Dec 12, 2004 04:35
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On 2004-12-11 02:08, DETOX wrote:
After all Tim even you and me 'helped' more or less destroying the scene in our country no?We didnt intended to do such a thing but our actions had bad results for the scene and thats what counts in the end.
We should all learn from our mistakes (like you did with a personal problem that you had and thats something you should really be proud of) and use our little knowledge and big will to make things better.
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It's a very brave act of you admiting that 
But I thing that tim learn from these mistakes and now he tries to make good parties that every trancer like (full-on,minimal,progressive listener)
So it is you that must give us some signs that you want to make things better.
I don't see athens scene bumping man...
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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Dec 12, 2004 14:49
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Ok eternal events are very nice promoting parties delivering fresh sounds to the new gen but we have to introduce and some more alternative styles in our scene here,not in massive parties but with some smaller events with low entrance price like the IT recordstore event with Holeg,Aes Dana and many more..But the future is in private parties with good music and vibes like the old days!Anyway I started to listening psy-trance in 97 at the age of 11 and I went at my first parties in 2001 and I didn't meet the old school events..I missed the good times!Now I prefer festivals and some parties with an interesting line up
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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 12, 2004 16:15
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On 2004-12-12 04:35, trippy_movek wrote:
So it is you that must give us some signs that you want to make things better.
I don't see athens scene bumping man...
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Trippy helping the scene doesnt only mean making parties.I am operating a new GREEK based label that works with some of the biggest psy trance names out there plus already established and new GREEK artists like Wizzy Noise,Kinetic,Ion and Gemini for example.This is good for the greek scene since people and artists abroad see that something is going on here in our country.When you got labels like ZMA,Harmonia,Candyflip,my label Exposure and others doing a great job then this is good for the whole scene here.
Its really hard to organise a party in Athens at the moment simply because there are no clubs available,and i mean really big and nice clubs that can hold a big and organised event.The club owners you see dont much like psy trance music in our town...
Thats one of the reasons that the scene in Thesaloniki is going very well in contrast to the Athenian scene,the club owners there dont have a problem hosting a psy trance event,most of them at least.
So for the moment i am focused on my label and collaborating with other greek (and not only labels) in order to promote the music worldwidely.I also help providing various bookings in Greece and some foreign countries like Mexico,UK,Italy and Belgium.And last but not least i am helping in the construction of a new free greek trance fanzine that will be on the streets on holidays featuring many info and articles from the psy trance scene
Everybody does what he can
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astraldor
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Posted : Dec 12, 2004 16:26
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Ok tim, then add and leaflets about the effects of alcohol at the entrance, so you can offer more education 
I don’t care if security are 20 or 50 , it’s the same for me.
I gave drugs as example because this is the main reason you have security guys at the entrance. We haven’t deferent culture from other counties, our cops have deferent culture .
I prefer you to say something like: YES WE HAVE SECURITY BECAUSE WE WON’T COPS TO COME AND CLOSE OUR PARTY, or WE WANT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH POLICE , or WE AFRAID THAT POLICE WILL CLOSE OUR PARTY, than that we have security to protect you from drugs. That makes me think that we are idiots and we must have a “baboula” over our heads in order to protect us from a burned man that he will came and ask us if we want lsd.
I suppose that everyone that is viewing that forum knows the efforts of eternal motion, and they are happy and they hope that they see efforts like that and at their town. That doesn’t mean we mustn’t criticize eternal motions parties. And since we are talking about the future of trance scene in our country em must do more and more efforts based from the party people demands in order to make events unique and better, and better.
As for the 30 euros if its fair or not, let people that pay them to decide
I agree with GOPENDRA that the scene starts again to be more underground, and that’s great.
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