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**how to pay artist for unreleased trax??**

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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 16:52
rik 4 president.
Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 17:04
yeah there is a huge amount of very talented psytrance producers (at mikseri's for example) and just because it's unreleased it doesn't mean it's not good enough to release it through a label. i could imagine that these people even are true artists, devoting their life to it more than the average, regularly releasing producer (generally spoken). some of this people also dont want to gain any money for their work.

so that psytrance.com idea sounds just great, and there is also the possibility to let them play in your parties, if you are willing to take probable risk and to give someone a chance.           Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
http://www.myspace.com/anakoluth
http://www.ektoplazm.com/profiles/anakoluth/
http://cronomi.com
deejayridoo
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 17:06
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On 2004-08-10 21:57, DiMiTry wrote:
A lot of good psychedelic music is too strange for mainstream psy labels. Thus it remains unreleased. Check out Vicious Spiral - one of the most brilliant artists, yet only has 2 released tracks.

i'd really like to donate some money to him so he keeps making psytrance.

and I'm not going to pay for crappy unr full-on that gets, like, 10 releases a day, when the real psychedelic artists remain unreleased.





that´s it.
i have lots of hope that in the future it will be much better for underground artists to spread their music through the internet and earning underground-appropriate pocket money for their good work. this way the music will be much better cause there is no need to earn money.
psunspot
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 23:04
rik, you are a wise man

i totally agree with you, Anakoluth. and Spindrift.
there are many good artists that still aren't being released. and i like the intention of a lot of those finnish artists. i mean, if we aren't gonna have fun, what's the use?

anak. i wish i could bring underground artists here, but it seems that in the states even parties with big names (like astral P, wizzy noise, shakta, etc) often still lose money + it seems like everyone is an artist these days. there are really quite a lot of underground producers here already

Sektor666, i do buy the stuff i like; my point is there is much more that i'd like to buy, but can't. I'm with DiMiTry on this one

Tsabi, i do hope that website comes along soon. i think that would work. (and super big thanks for being such a nice guy. can't wait to decimate the playa with your old skool psyfunk sounds )

i believe that digital will be the distribution method of the future, but we arent there yet. soon i hope, sooooon...
clown
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Posted : Aug 11, 2004 23:36
I for one would be willing to purchase unreleased tracks from artists of all sorts and kinds.. If i can help artists grow in anyway possible, im up for it.. as long as they don't get to greedy..

Some artistst already DO sell tracks to people through the internet.. there is PAYPAL for the payments.. you just have to aquire a certain amount of trust between the artist and the buyer, to ensure them that there tracks won't be found on the internet.. thats the hard part..           "VA - REWIRED" OUT NOW !! (techtrance invasion) ---> http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/86303/forum/9
http://psy.techno.fm <------- Jester Records's Internet Radio channel
www.jesterrecords.ca
Rik
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 02:20
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On 2004-08-11 23:36, clown wrote:
you just have to aquire a certain amount of trust between the artist and the buyer, to ensure them that there tracks won't be found on the internet.. thats the hard part..




That's the funny thing about some of the mentioned artists... they already give it all out for free themselves. they put up to 320kbit mp3 files of their tracks online for people to enjoy. they don't expect any money (yet).

I wonder if the download page would have a paypall button on it, free to use when you feel like it... would the artist make any actual money? (this fits more in a sponsoring concept than buying music imho)

simply booking the artist is also an option but far from within everybodys possibilities.          www.psytracks.com :: Brand new website for sharing your psytracks with the world. Get a free 250Mb Artist profile, Blog and events calender!
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 04:38
or maybe 192 kbs for free (for home listening) and 320 kbs (for playing out) for 50 cents or a dollar or something like that.

my 2 cents
Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 07:35
what the argue about load mixieri or whatever it called and send them donation ..........

what is the problem or you "bla bla guys" ?

i would i would , go and do if you want so , i ' m quite sure that these sites will accept your money ..........
Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 09:25
had a bad night eh?

we are not argueing we're discussing, but you are certainly free to turn it round ...

we "blabla guys" at least we (or some of us) are thinking about a way to give more a people a chance in our "industry" which is an all positive thing and for sure better than treepissing around mate.
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wow it would so rock to release some of the mikseri guys work, then we'd finally have any delicious releases around again!
          Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
http://www.myspace.com/anakoluth
http://www.ektoplazm.com/profiles/anakoluth/
http://cronomi.com
PRAECOX
Bigwigs

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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 13:05
Quote:

On 2004-08-10 23:38, Sektor666 wrote:
these who create real underground music no need in money because they are musicians+hippies and musician hippies live from fame nor money ......

but mostly these are the masterpieces .




....it seems like u talking about me!

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Templar^
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 13:26
Naah, U wish Praecox, he's talking 'bout Growling Mad Scientists!

;-)           www.ektoplazm.com/2011/panta-deus - download for free Psytrance.pl's 10th anniversary compilation featuring 100% Polish psy-music (goa, prog, dark, full-on, chillout): Artha, Sundial Aeon and many more

www.psytrance.pl - Polish psytrance website
Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 12, 2004 13:45
Anakoluth , i don't care of releases or unreleases , just try to make my thing in my life that why i said all of it .............


Nope Praecox , i'm actualy talking about more underground than you .............................. aka Scandinavian Records .............

ti jest "weird" a ne underground , coz you live on farm near Warsaw as we all know and we all know that you there slaughter pigs and cows and combine with FM synthesis to make these sounds ............

tvoja muzika dobra ale ni to cho ti kohae/lubish(love) , chogo ce ?
Basilisk
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Posted : Aug 13, 2004 02:40
Strike up an email exchange with some artists... some are keen on sending tracks out... my prob is that I won't play an mp3 of any kind out at parties, so I like to get .wav's of good unreleased from artists... I don't mean unreleased like the latest skazi remix of some commercial crap, I just mean amateurs making great deep music who don't go with labels or haven't broken through... the rockstar mentality is still at work with most artists in the psy scene and that's too bad... strange that many would prefer their music unheard than to have it out there...
Pointy


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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 12:00
I found this www.resonantearth.com in the promotional section.
Yet another great effort from the NordicCountries to bring out music wich doesn't fit under a label, or just hasn't been recognized yet. Here with the possibility to support the artists via paypal button.
A fine example for how to pay artists for unreleased tracks. I hope we will be able to access more great unheard music this way soon.
Outolintu
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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 12:43

here's a link for anakoluth:

http://www.freakdancerecords.net/

freakdance records is releasing mikseri.net
style of music. this could be also the place
where psunspot could have a chance to buy
the compilations he's searching for (if
they're still available).

if somebody is offering music for free
why not just make contact via mikseri.net
and expalin you would like to "sponsor"
him/her. i'm sure it's not a problem.

the web site tsabi was talking about sounds
very interesting indeed. hope it'll function soon!
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