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horrible quality /bad mastering

mubali
Mubali

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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 01:44
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On 2007-02-07 19:43, MorNinG MaGiC wrote:
LAWERENCE HOFFMAN AKA . CHROMATONE ..!
the besttt his work speaks for it self wid the amount of albumz he has mastered for many a rec labelzz ..
VA - MECHANIK CASTLE ( one of the most phattest i have heard in my life , JESUS ... )

and if u wanna hear smthin in terms of bad mastering ..the first compilation tht came of noise poison rec , germany was really bad mastered .. sony india did quite an average work on the cd i must say .. jus an opinion ...!

other favs wud b 4CN studios , artifakt , silicon sound..! and a few more ... the better the technicality n deatilin dn at the mastering stage THE PHATTER THE CD ...!

love n lite to all ...!
BOoOOM...!






If I'm not mistaken, Chromatone mastered Lysergic Lesson as well (Noise Poison first Compilation)
Sony India just printed it I think... I could be mistaken though, but I almost distinctly remember listening to it while Chromie was mastering some of it...
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rajatrao6
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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 04:41
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On 2007-02-09 01:44, mubali wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-07 19:43, MorNinG MaGiC wrote:
LAWERENCE HOFFMAN AKA . CHROMATONE ..!
the besttt his work speaks for it self wid the amount of albumz he has mastered for many a rec labelzz ..
VA - MECHANIK CASTLE ( one of the most phattest i have heard in my life , JESUS ... )

and if u wanna hear smthin in terms of bad mastering ..the first compilation tht came of noise poison rec , germany was really bad mastered .. sony india did quite an average work on the cd i must say .. jus an opinion ...!

other favs wud b 4CN studios , artifakt , silicon sound..! and a few more ... the better the technicality n deatilin dn at the mastering stage THE PHATTER THE CD ...!

love n lite to all ...!
BOoOOM...!






If I'm not mistaken, Chromatone mastered Lysergic Lesson as well (Noise Poison first Compilation)
Sony India just printed it I think... I could be mistaken though, but I almost distinctly remember listening to it while Chromie was mastering some of it...




Thats right Sony India only did the printing
mk47
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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 05:00
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On 2007-02-06 00:25, Wizack Twizack wrote:

but i must cred ka-sol also for nice work!

bOm..




really ? he has pretty much the muddiest sound so its surprising to hear .. gr8 music tho !
MorNinG MaGiC


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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 07:37
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On 2007-02-09 04:41, rajatrao6 wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-09 01:44, mubali wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-07 19:43, MorNinG MaGiC wrote:
LAWERENCE HOFFMAN AKA . CHROMATONE ..!
the besttt his work speaks for it self wid the amount of albumz he has mastered for many a rec labelzz ..
VA - MECHANIK CASTLE ( one of the most phattest i have heard in my life , JESUS ... )

and if u wanna hear smthin in terms of bad mastering ..the first compilation tht came of noise poison rec , germany was really bad mastered .. sony india did quite an average work on the cd i must say .. jus an opinion ...!

other favs wud b 4CN studios , artifakt , silicon sound..! and a few more ... the better the technicality n deatilin dn at the mastering stage THE PHATTER THE CD ...!

love n lite to all ...!
BOoOOM...!






If I'm not mistaken, Chromatone mastered Lysergic Lesson as well (Noise Poison first Compilation)
Sony India just printed it I think... I could be mistaken though, but I almost distinctly remember listening to it while Chromie was mastering some of it...




Thats right Sony India only did the printing



hi rajat bro thts true as well..! but thts whr it fucked up majorly on da cover of the cd which i have it says mastered and printed SONY INDIA , BOMBAY ..!
sum fucked up catalouge thx for da info
boOOm to all ..!
Noise Poison Records
Noise Poison Records

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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 16:46
high dudes ...

first of all lawrence did a great job in mastering the compilation, i still have his original master in my case. and as its seen in the whole production of this cd, started with the print of the cover is too dark, the sound level was to low and also 80% of the cases were broken as they arrived at our distributor, which directly caused complains from their customer logically were forwarded to us.

after first release we changed the company produces the whole product, which is also in europe now, had lots of trouble in india after but in the end all was fine again. bad experiences has to be made, to learn from them!!!..

i still send out copies of the masterdisc to people bought this VA and asking me for.

cheers           I just came out, cause it seems there was a noise outside ! .... added to Parvati Records rooster .. check webside !!!
http://www.parvati-records.com
http://www.noise-poison.com
http://www.myspace.com/dj_ilse
Pt.
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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 17:07
Is there such a thing to mastering where a person who is doing the mastering can make the overall feeling of the album even more psychedelic, even more tripper friendly? If so, psykovsky - "Debut" has superb mastering.
TrippyJohnny
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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 17:17
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On 2007-02-09 17:07, spytooned psytones wrote:
Is there such a thing to mastering where a person who is doing the mastering can make the overall feeling of the album even more psychedelic, even more tripper friendly? If so, psykovsky - "Debut" has superb mastering.





Ok let's once and for all nail down what Mastering is all about and what it's not

Mastering is in it's basic terms the final production "polishing" before it goes on CD or vinyl. Mastering's finest job is to make sure the music sound good on more than one system. The Mastering is therefore basically a technique that will make certain aspects of the music become more clear if it need it or boosting bassm mid and treble frequenies if needed, reduction of noice if there's any, sometimes compressing music if it need it, adjusting the music with EQ if it need it and a very important thing; Leveling each track so they are similar in the volume (BUT not as some amatures think....making the music too loud).

There are of course more aspects to mastering.

Mastering is NOT:

Making the music more trippy or hypnotic and even though Mastering can do a lot of good to the music at the end of the day if a track is horrible produced then there's only so much mastering can do for that track.. It's no a magical miracle Magician


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gaspard
Yab Yum

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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 17:30
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Mastering is NOT:

Making the music more trippy or hypnotic and even though Mastering can do a lot of good to the music at the end of the day if a track is horrible produced then there's only so much mastering can do for that track.. It's no a magical miracle Magician




for sure you cannot polish a turd, as the expression goes!

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MorNinG MaGiC


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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 18:44
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On 2007-02-09 16:46, Noise Poison Records wrote:
high dudes ...

first of all lawrence did a great job in mastering the compilation, i still have his original master in my case. and as its seen in the whole production of this cd, started with the print of the cover is too dark, the sound level was to low and also 80% of the cases were broken as they arrived at our distributor, which directly caused complains from their customer logically were forwarded to us.

after first release we changed the company produces the whole product, which is also in europe now, had lots of trouble in india after but in the end all was fine again. bad experiences has to be made, to learn from them!!!..

i still send out copies of the masterdisc to people bought this VA and asking me for.

cheers



hi ILSE ..!
sorry if i have made any wrng comments or sayings towards your work or noise poison ...
it was jus something tht i observed and wanted to share ..! yes the production was MASSIVE I AGREE..!
the sound levels whr quite low and less then desirable ..!
ntn agnst any label and any comments with regard to this from my side have sum been hi insight of jus as an observation .. !
All the best for the future to u and all the ppl ..! and im sure future releases will b kikking harder than ever
Luv n lite too all ..!
BOOOmm>!
olivier
Side-A

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Posted : Feb 9, 2007 21:01
it also often happens that people claim some mastering sucks while actually it's not always the mastering fault ... many tracks are originally so badly produced and mixed that with the best mastering in the world it would still sound like crap...
Mistress of Evil
Mistress Of Evil Records

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Posted : Feb 10, 2007 00:14
I think the most important thing is to choose the right person to master the disc based on the style of music you want to master and what you want the end result to be. Sometimes it is the goal to make is sound all smooth and round and squishy, but sometimes you want it to be edgier, noisier and more distorted.
and yes, sometimes that tracks are just really horribly produced in the first place so any amount of mastering will not help.
or sometimes you want it really distorted and raw,say Fuck mastering, like Schlabbaduerst i am always happy with their discs...

Schlabbaduerst-style music making:

1. We dont give a shit about clean sounds, we´re not fucking Toto (ewww...), we´re punk rock!

2. We do care for psychedelic and weird sounds. Strongly.

3. Sometimes we use mastering as a way to destroy the sound even more. We intend to destroy all sonic systems.

4. Sometimes we dont bother to clean the samples. A little extra hiss in the background is just psychedelic. = Yes we are lazy.

5. Bah!

6. Most sounds do have a thought behind, its probably supposed to sound the way it sounds.

7. If you think it doesnt sound right, thats probably what we wanted to achieve.

8. If you think it doesnt sound proper or nice, thats definitely what we wanted to achieve.

9. We dont elaborate, we do what we feel like doing.

10. The lust for destruction can be a creative lust.

11. After destroying, build things up again.

12. Thank you, please come again.

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mudpeople
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 10, 2007 01:39
It seems to me, after hearing stuff like Schlabb releases and older stuff, that mastering isnt the end-all-be-all that people make it out to be. A badly mastered track can still sound good on a sound system, and an ultra-polished track can sound TOO polished.

At least, IMO.           .
Aida Noridania


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Posted : Feb 13, 2007 13:24
now i wonder something....

how does it come that sometimes i prefer the unmastered vbersions of certain tracks then the mastered ones? (example xerxes)

this has nothing to do with the mastering being good or bad but to me it sounds like the unmastered version sounds "truer from the heart" of the composer

i know this is more a personal feel of the matter, but i often like that more even if the end product is top notch quality....

edit: my own theory about this is because i mainly try to listen to what the artist tries to "give" or what lays inside in that track instead of watching how it is wrapped...

and that's something else then taking drugs imo out of discussions it is what people make to listen to tracks: what they tell as every track badly mastered or top notch mastered tells a story

how it is told is important but that how is still for 80% in the hands of the composer...          no situation is stronger then a heart that dares to love
so may the force of life light and love be with you
d1m1tr1
Dark Elf

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Posted : Feb 16, 2007 18:32
the mastering part can fix your track very well or the opposite: destroy it, yes it happens !!!

ok for sure WHO does it, is really important,
but also WHERE or WITH WHAT, plays an enormous role ...

Cheers

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d1m1tr1
Dark Elf

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Posted : Feb 16, 2007 18:36
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On 2007-02-06 01:55, FaithNoMore wrote:

this is the studio that does the mastering for our comp soon to b released
http://recordingstudios.d-raft.gr/athens5.htm




yeah great studio, and just for the record they changed the Amek Angela for a Harrison !!!

the greatest sound and preamp i've hearD till now !!!
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