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Homophobia in the Psy scene
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 06:53
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phew...
this thread was just a couple o pages nd guess what its coem to page 6 already! 
cool...my post was bout indifferece towards gays in general...and i dint mean to raise any eyebrows. but i did read up a lil (maybe i was less informed bout this...)and guess it IS NATURAL TO BE GAY OR A HOMOSEXUAL...would want you guys to read this as well!
"Moral and ethical views on homosexuality will forever be a matter of an individual's opinion, but one aspect of the debate needs to stop: the belief that homosexuality is not natural. It is simply not true. Believe it or not, homosexuality and bisexuality are not the creation of humans looking for alternative lifestyles.
Many species in nature have been observed as exhibiting homosexual behavior. In some primate species, males who are denied mating opportunities by stronger, more dominant males or males who are sexually immature will often be seen performing sexual acts to each other. Some may even continue this behavior long into adulthood.
Homosexual behavior by both sexes has also been observed in wild and domestic dogs when females are in heat. Homosexual acts occur in countless animal societies, but more interesting is that long-term homosexual bonds exist beyond humanity as well. Male and female homosexual pairs form in numerous primates, mainly chimpanzees and orangutans and these pairs will "remain faithful" to each other for many years. Male dolphins will also form long lasting unions in which the couple, even though they are part of a larger group, will only perform mating-like, or stimulatory behavior on each other.
If you do not believe me, you should purchase "Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity," by Bruce Bagemihl, which details the scientific observations of homosexuality in nature.
In my opinion, homosexual marriage is the least of our problems at this point. The human population is exploding exponentially destroying everything its path. Maybe homosexuality is nature's method of population control.
Face it, homosexuality is a natural behavior. Being gay is not exclusive to the "homo sapiens" primate. What has never been observed is a group of dolphins beating another dolphin senseless because he was gay. No biologist has documented anti-homosexual behavior in nature. So is it possible that the unnatural behavior is the hatred and oppression of gays?"
Bart Critser
just an interestin read...
so let em gays be...
peace...
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 07:52
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I read it all... It was a long journey... Some words and thoughts like the ones from Psypepper and Ron Lyner are pretty hash and unwise IMO, but I think they have the right to express theirselves... I hope they read and think about the comments to their posts.
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On 2005-11-14 19:55, Troll@CrackWhoreModels wrote:
but you forget to mention that gaypeople have alot of money (because we never pay taxes)
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Correction: because they don´t have girlfriends!   Taxes are nothing compared to some girls...  (just a joke  )
Also there are some homosexualism discussion in this thread:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/8584/forum/18
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 08:39
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On 2005-11-14 21:57, Surrender wrote:
reading some of the other responses, like Forest Dreams and Godfather reminds me that this scene is not the utopia that we wished for, not so understanding and leaves alot to be desired with some of its members. is this the world we created? i sure hope not... 
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all due respect...but there is always difference of opinion...this is the reason this thread has come up here on this forum hasnt it?
and a world with every body thinkin alike...is just not, in the near future, a possiblity. so a utopian world is just an imagination!
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ucc
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 08:46
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On 2005-11-15 07:52, full_on wrote:
I read it all... It was a long journey... Some words and thoughts like the ones from Psypepper and Ron Lyner are pretty hash and unwise IMO, but I think they have the right to express theirselves... I hope they read and think about the comments to their posts.
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On 2005-11-14 19:55, Troll@CrackWhoreModels wrote:
but you forget to mention that gaypeople have alot of money (because we never pay taxes)
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sorry if i'm confusing the bits here... but homersexuals don't pay taxes?
i wonder who of you complain about this!
and than you don't want to be treated as different
if you don't want to be treated as different, act normally.
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shamanizer
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 08:51
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Please people stop with your biblical nonsense about homosexuality and go to do it on some neo-christian site where you find soul mates such as George W Bush.
Let people be whatever they want to be as long they do not hurt you.
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ucc
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 08:54
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On 2005-11-15 08:51, shamanizer wrote:
Now, I'm not a gay...
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no? well about that i don't really know! |
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shamanizer
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 09:07
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On 2005-11-15 08:54, ucc wrote:
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On 2005-11-15 08:51, shamanizer wrote:
Now, I'm not a gay...
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no? well about that i don't really know!
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And about much more... |
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 09:13
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On 2005-11-15 08:51, shamanizer wrote:
Please people stop with your biblical nonsense about homosexuality and go to do it on some neo-christian site where you find soul mates such as George W Bush.
Let people be whatever they want to be as long they do not hurt you.
Now, I'm not a gay, but they certainly do not bother me in any way.
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thanx dude...uve just open my eyes...all we needed was a thoughtful and nonprovocative post like this! 
should we just lock this thread? n just let people be wateva they wanna be?
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Pt.
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I got nothing against homosexual persons. As long as they respect me, and my sexuality. And they do. I got a friend thats gay, and I got no problems with him or his friends. But one remark. Homosexuality isnt "normal" in my view. Because I've heard the comment before about. Men/guys has a "pleasure" zone in their anus. ...Newsflash. That "pleasure" zone is there because it shall not be unpleasent to take a dump. The butthole is designed to let "things" out. Not stick'em in. - Anyhow, respect people for who they are and the choices they take. Even if it's natural or not. (And no, killing, pedophilia is not OK)
Oh, and my friend is realy good at hooking chicks up with me! hehe
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GAY
Definitions:
1. attracted to same sex: relating to sexual attraction or activity among members of the same sex
2. merry: full of light-heartedness and merriment
3. bright in color: brightly colored
4. carefree: having or showing a carefree spirit
5. debauched: leading a debauched or dissolute life
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gay man or lesbian: somebody, especially a man, who is attracted to other members of the same sex.
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 09:21
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Gays are cool, they got the maximum chicks around em. All those women feel that the gay boys aren't gonna try to get them into bed .. so find a gay friend and get the women
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shamanizer
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 10:00
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On 2005-11-15 09:13, Forest dreams wrote:
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On 2005-11-15 08:51, shamanizer wrote:
Please people stop with your biblical nonsense about homosexuality and go to do it on some neo-christian site where you find soul mates such as George W Bush.
Let people be whatever they want to be as long they do not hurt you.
Now, I'm not a gay, but they certainly do not bother me in any way.
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thanx dude...uve just open my eyes...all we needed was a thoughtful and nonprovocative post like this!
should we just lock this thread? n just let people be wateva they wanna be?
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Dream on mate  , and always when someone looks for answers from the bible etc. provocates me. And its not necessarily bad thing to be a bit provocative every now and then. Keeps you awake... On the other hand being provocative can be a two bladed knife, it is often aimed to suffocate other opinions.
But yea, let it be.
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acidonacid
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 10:02
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No problem with gays lesbians or other minorities.
Everybody has a bed and is free to do on this everything he want.
Is the freedom of choice like drugs and religion.
Is very silly to judge somebody about all this things.
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 10:24
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Dream on mate , and always when someone looks for answers from the bible etc. provocates me. And its not necessarily bad thing to be a bit provocative every now and then. Keeps you awake... On the other hand being provocative can be a two bladed knife, it is often aimed to suffocate other opinions.
But yea, let it be.
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true...but i dont quite get what here is biblical....and who among us is looking for answers in the bible...!
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shamanizer
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 11:47
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If you read all the replies on this thread you will see some references to Adam and Eve and how it is abnormal to be a gay because of this biblical creation theory etc. That's all.
To be honest I don't know if this was really directed towards looking answers from the bible, in my second reply I was speaking on more general level.
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kin beat
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Posted : Nov 15, 2005 11:58
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well i read the entire 6 pages so far and wow  all i can say is, the diversity makes this world what it is, and, it is a really nice place to be in. i dont think it would change anything here, if there was no gay dudes ,or lesbian girls.
anyways, i just saw a movie call "Inconscientes" "unconcious" made in Spain, but it does have subtitles for those whom does not and/or dont bother read spanish is a great movie that actually brings out. the whole concept the rich, and wise people had back the 1913-1920 about gay and bisexual tendencies with a great presentation of DR. Sigmund Freud exposing his theories with the european academy of psychiatry in Spain. i m not gay but i watched it  u dont have to worry about sex escenes or stuff like that is not about it. i dont know you should see it it's way worth it if you like foreing films. and happened to be related with this thread.
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