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OzMike
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Posted : Nov 23, 2014 23:34
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psy-junky
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Posted : Nov 24, 2014 11:11
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On 2014-11-22 21:15, ATA wrote:
I guess it's always going to draw polarising opinions being the most extreme end of an already quite extreme genre.
Honestly out of those artists you listed I wouldn't really bother with any of them any more sidra, I disagree they're "timeless", I also disagree that there's no new interpretations of sound in Hitech, some of what these guys are doing (especially with their basslines) is ridiculous. You do have to hear it coming out of a big outdoor party rig to get the full experience though imo.
To me some boring progressive or super generic 145bpm psy kills the mood on the dance floor. It's all subjective I guess but the most energetic, euphoric, and joyous dancefloors I've experience have been on Hitech!
I do like the idea of splitting the faster BPM stuff from "Normal" psytrance. 2015 for me is going to be all about darkpsy/hitech festivals; I looked at the lineup Ozora just released and yawned...
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Very well put, i agree with you for me also proggy or generic 145 bpm stuff doesnt really do it. When im at a festival i change my body clock, i am awake all night and retire around 10 am to catch some rest till the night.
@ozmike: Its not always about being cool bro, there actually exists freaks like me, ATA and countless others who love and thrive on Forest, Night music, Hi Tech.
Even if someone liked Hi tech to be cool, it would be very hard for him to be on LSD and pretend to like it. As far as my experience with acid it would be very hard to pretend and dance hours together to any genre you dont actually like within.
Is it really as psychedelic as psytrance at a 145 to 155 bpm , no its not, the high bpm in fact keeps your mind a little more grounded. But its lot of fun to end the night with couple of sets of hitech. It really gives a night that beautiful stretch the realms of psytrance .... overwhelming heavy ending to a good night before the morning music.
Its almost like robots/zombie's dancing to hitech but you need to comprehend what level the dancers minds are at, with the acid + music for this level of full power trance dance experience. If people are gonna judge this clan of people for dancing like zombie's so be it, did the "full power 24 hour, no toilet no shower" dancer ever care what the world think, he/she believes if they are having fun and like what they hear how does it matter what the world thinks. This mantra infact is for the whole psytrance genre in general.
Freaks at heart and proud to be it.
I agree ozora line was not appealing to me either. I had time to make to one european festival last year, would have made sense to go for ozora/boom being the brand name festivals that they are but i went for lost theory. Thats just a matter of taste though, to each his own. Some like it sweet, some like spicy and some tangy.
Let just hope going forward artists focus on evolution and uniqueness of sound rather than following the band wagon of trying to sound like a particular label. Im sure the better ones will do that or already are.  "Whoever said the best things in life are free... obviously grew their own bud" |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 24, 2014 13:50
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it's all about the tempo. There is not really such as Hitech is only shit or like the genres are of different elements. It is the same. In each there are wack tunes or good tunes. Even in Darkpsy there are lots of tracks that based on musical harmony and have a deeper context in regard to chords, notes and harmony, some can call it story telling or something more than just sound design-effects.
For me it is not a joy to dance out of a beat or trying to get a heart attack when trying to dance to 4 on the floor at 200 BPM.  does not make any sense to me and I like to be full in trance. That's why I don't hear it and Hitech or better said this tempo is for me nothing I could love. Atleast not for a longer while such a while as a trance state lasts.
It's even pity since I belive lots of this music could be great at an 'appropriate' tempo. Last but not least Hitech tends to have more of that nothing saying tracks just with noises than any other genres, but as a said above I'm absolutely aware that it got also good content music. It is just absolutely too fast for me to enjoy it.
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Nov 25, 2014 09:20
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Gunter
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Posted : Nov 25, 2014 21:17
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Wow, this Junx Punx shit is da real shit. Oh man. Nice for a tea. But can you give me more hyper music, please? |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 25, 2014 22:11
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Gunter
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Posted : Nov 26, 2014 21:55
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Gunter
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Posted : Nov 26, 2014 22:03
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But please I need some more hyper music. Please.
Scooter was rocks. I hated it from the beginning. Respect.
thing is, I am searching for da shit, man. Full power no shower. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 27, 2014 20:32
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Gunter
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Posted : Nov 27, 2014 21:13
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Upavas
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Posted : Nov 27, 2014 22:26
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It's funny, Cindervomit does not consider his music hitech, imo it is the only hitech that I actually really like, but then again he says it ain't... so lets just say when it comes to really fast music I can warmly recommend his stuff... it's the only sound in that bpm range where I feel like that's yummy stuff!
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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psy-junky
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Posted : Nov 28, 2014 08:34
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On 2014-11-25 09:20, Bloodclot wrote:
190 is the new 150. I know people who like to relax and have conversations with fast music blaring in the background. It's quite beyond me. It's rather disgusting to hear where this sound is traveling toward (teens on MD) and it seems like a rather planned sort of evolution. 200 BPM music. What next? This ones been doing the rounds off late and I just don't get it. https://soundcloud.com/junxpunx/junxpunx-dtzp-dbz-detekoi-tobikiri-zenkai-power-junxpunx-remix-214bpm
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Agreed the Md/coke/ecstacy/speed scene is in love with the fastest bpm's even of hitech. I personally tried these substances but dont anymore, dint appeal to me as much, i prefer psychedelics mostly lsd, shrooms, dmt once in a blue moon. For me 175 bpm is fast enough, the bpm could be faster if the track sounds good.
I hope 190 is not the new 150, my first love is still 148 to 155 ... 
@upavas: Agreed cindervomit tracks are in a league of their own, hi tech or not good music for sure.
We seem to have a lot of discussion here whether hitech good or not but at the parties you see the good hitech artists being booked and rocking dance floors everywhere.
"Whoever said the best things in life are free... obviously grew their own bud" |
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randulon
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Posted : Nov 28, 2014 13:26
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I like MDMA and Cocaine, although the latter is not so good for music and dancing, but DO NOT like music over 140 bpm, typically. I also like LSD, and all the others, and favour progressive over full-on and forest, hi-tech, and all that stuff, which I hate. Stop pigeon-holing people based on the drugs they prefer. It's bullshit. |
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Gunter
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Posted : Nov 28, 2014 22:58
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sidra
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Posted : Nov 29, 2014 00:39
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On 2014-11-22 21:15, ATA wrote:
Honestly out of those artists you listed I wouldn't really bother with any of them any more sidra, I disagree they're "timeless"
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I think this mentality is part of the issue. Mediocre generic artists only listening to other mediocre generic artists for inspiration and disregarding releases that are, quite simply, works of creative genius just because they are older and don't have that ultra crisp modern production.
Another issue is that we've gone from listening to tracks on the dance floor and saying "OH that track sounds like its such and such artist" to "OH that track sounds like its such and such Label"
It doesn't matter what part of the scene you are examining, the same could be said for prog/zenonesque/peak records sounds. I think I just find hi-tech particularly boring because who wants to dance to something that is 180 bpm.
Or maybe I'm just a big troll.
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