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History of Psytrance culture in Mexico

Forza
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 15:25
This thread started as a request from one of our members, which had the great idea of starting a dialogue about the history of this culture in our country.

As far as I remember, it all began with small private parties, around the end of 1999 and beginning of year 2000, these parties had no more than 30 people, were usually in houses and dj's like Vazik (which was known as master) D-tek (known as David Durst) and Guy robert played in them.

Even before that around 1995 there was already some people into Goa, and dj's like martin parra (which was known as Mar-t 9000) played Goa dj sets in a place known as Casa del Arbol, but it was something really underground.

The first formal Psytrance party as far as I know was with Total Eclipse, unfortunately I didn't go to this party to give much details about it or about the date it was held, but maybe some of our fellow forum users could shed more light on the subject.

The opening of Sound Sorcery, which started as a store, and them became a label which later became Maia records, contributed to give psytrance a boost to popularity, as well as the work of 2 joint Trance crews which were Metta (founded by Geza) and Psyrcle (founded by Vazik) which produced a party called Sounds of Earth, where they decided to merge and become what later became Sounds of Earth.

There were also a series of parties made @ colmillo on mondays knows as Lunes de Psycho, which were quite popular and became a place where many starting dj's became known, these parties were held for a year if my memory still works

Speaking of Deco @ parties, the influence and hard work of Deliria greatly contributed in enchancing the parties beauty and concept, they were always striving to make innovations in design and materials used, and they work has been so good that they were hired to make the deco for the boom festival in portugal, and I guess we all know the quality of the parties they produce nowadays

Some important producers of the nascent scene were Ollin Lak'ech which produced Return to the source and the first Earthdance among many others, they were highly regarded by their quality and profesionalism, so much that even Maia hired one of his members to help them produce Time and Space I.

And family tree which produced Marakaame the first three day festival in Mexico which attracted a lot of visitors from europe and the united states, it was an achievement being the first festival made, however 2 mistakes (imho) was the lack of a chillout zone and that the lineup was composed entirely by international dj's.

At the beginning, the vibe was awesome in the parties and the people behind their production ranged from very professional, to decently professional, people who went to the parties just wanted to have a good time and make new friends, but then these people started to get more into the psytrance culture and a nascent Mexican version of it was slowly starting.

The problem was when people with a different ethic than those first producers started making parties, they stopped caring about being professional, offering quality or they announced things in the flyers (bathrooms, high quality audio, dj's) that weren't real, they also started to massively distribute flyers everywhere which contributed to attract people with different intentions from the original psytrance lovers.

People started to develop the habit of breaking in into the parties, some people because it was fun or because of the thrill of doing something forbidden, others as a way to protest for the lies that were told in the flyers or lack of professionalism of producers, and others just because they were abusive and saw the parties as a place to steal and commit all series of abuses.

This had the undesirable effect of scaring the best producers of the scene (with some few exceptions who survive up to these days) because of the losses they had at the parties, or because they felt they huge effort wasn't being respected by those people who just broke in.

The producers who weren't that ethical didn't help much either, because they just let the problem grow without thinkin in the future, caring just about making a quick profit in their productions, this created a vicious circle, of bad producers which attracted people which didn't want to be a part of this culture but to abuse it, and drove away the people who loved these parties in the first place, which still show up @ parties like the ones deliria or sounds of earth make.

Now, we are the community, don't you all feel nostalgia? don't you feel in your hearts a burning desire to see a beautiful scene again?

what can we do?

Tvayi snihyaami : Mama tvayi aasaktirasti

(Sanskrit for there is love in me for you and my heart burns with desire to see you)

Namaste


          Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
kin beat
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 16:07
Let me talk about how do i find out there was a thing called Psychedelic Trance.
Back in 1999-2000 there were a group of kids whom called themselves "Mandala" they were close related to the work of Sound Sorcery and therefore Maia Records, They started out by opening the first store I remember in town which was located in front of a School named Universidad Lamar, right in Guadalupe Zuno and Chapultepec Avenues, remember it was later in the spring of 2000 when they had a party with someone named "Atmos" whom till today its one of my favorite artits, as far i can remember i kind of got to know a few of them, Yigo, Santiago and Manik because Chapultepec is the core of the Skateborading in Guadalajara, where most of the street skaters used to hang out and do out tricks, and their Mandala Store was not even 2 blocks away from it, later that same year on new years eve 2000-2001 they had this amazing party called Crystal Moon if i m not mistaken which was held @ Sayulita with Sean Williams also known as Process from TIP Records, after the learning the culture since the begining, of the purchase of original material because that was their main motto, by having a store where you could go and buy directly from them the original albums...
after that I became addicted to this new music that was so powerful and energetic that i even left my band of Punk rock and when moved to USA on early 2002, bringing 2 things with me, here Tavito let me tell you something very important I do respect and till today admire from these guys, the Mandala Crew, and that is: 1- the fact they always had this other side stage where they played chill out and had also lots of decoration and space where to sit down and chillax, as well as the true heart and spirit of showing their ideas with no hesitation (13:20, yoga etc)
regarding Video, I have to mention Victor Gonzalez better known as Vic Bang 13 whom also and till today does the most amazing visual art and stuff of its kind....
Decoration, Mandala was an all in one organization
, they did it all for their parties....
And like I said i moved out in early february 2002 and got back to Mexico in 2006 when we, Alfreak and I decide to come back for a little while and went to Time and Space the Equinox Portal which was very very ilustrative on a way, that show us the ecene had change, had change a lot and we were probably not fitting this new trend of trancers holding elfos and believing they can talk and fly along with you...... then again whats a trend and whats our path??? gotta find it within!.
Luckily there are a few warriors standing, and even people like Transmuta are now changing stuff and getting back to the roots, I m happy to say I have been confirmed to play this weekend at a party where they will host the Chill Out stage even when its not their party, they wanted to get involved and show them its not just about the dance floor but soul and mind as well as the heart...

PS: can't forget to mentioned, the Parties we drove from Guadalajara to places like Hidalgo back in 2001 where we seen Psycraft and Psysex or the Valsequillo parties, can' even lie to you, dont remember the name of that one by the old Fellas of Puebla and people like dende whom till today just like Vazik does hold strong and show the world what Mexico offers.....
Sounds of Earth - Catalyst ...


NAMASTE!

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alfreak
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 18:21
i remember those mandala parties!!!           -PaRtYcLeS aLL oVeR tHE WoOdS

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Forza
Forza

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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 19:04
it'd be nice if we can collect information from every's state scene specially in the very first days           Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 19:15
thx for the info here, very nice. Maybe a tour for some forums in Mexico asking to came here and collaborate can work.
Brain Hacked
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 08:06
Reading made me sigh....i didnt started to listen psytrance back then (until 2001) i guess a had a glimse of what it was, past is history and its a shame i dont think new generations are carrying those ideals, but im sure something can be done to bring back that essence and feelings again
New hope


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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 08:33
Very nice thread in here. I'm from tabasco and in the year 2000 I was living in puebla and remember that first valsequillo party , in that year I knew psytrance , and at the end of the 2000 year some people ( I don't know who were they) organized a party near mazunte beach in oaxaca . I dont know who played there , maybe sally doolally . Then I started to organize parties with some friends at tabasco in 2001 with very few equipment . One standar mixer , 2 celeron pc and traktor dj studio demo . Trying to share some of the music and the psytrance culture with tabasco people.
Very old days .
I think in near future not comercial parties and not comercial artist will keep the roots of the movement alive
alfreak
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 23:04
do you guys think this genre of music for the mexican masses will disappear like any other cool thing to do before psytrance?

i mean before psytrance, masses used to be into tagging,skating,being a punk, into hip hop an all that stuff.

so hopefully will get psytrance back someday soon , hey reggeton is coming up pretty strong man!!

enjoy ur day and thanks for the info.
          -PaRtYcLeS aLL oVeR tHE WoOdS

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Posted : Feb 16, 2008 00:15
I think is passing in mexico city, but it has its o own base like punk, ska , hip hop, it has stablished itself with deep roots.

You will seee newcomers in and out a lot, like in other genres but I think that at last in Mexico city its climax has passed
Forza
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Posted : Feb 16, 2008 00:55
And that could be a good thing, that way true devotees of Psy will remain

Love is the key here, if people has love for the culture, love for the music, and love for the parties, this love will make them support the scene.

If this love is strong enough, it will create a vibration that will atract newcomers with the right vibe.

If this love is strong enough it will inspire those who don't support the scene yet they have the psyseed inside them to act different.

Let love and light live forever in the hearts of all, psytrancers out there!

OOOOOOOMMMMMM
          Peace, Love, Light and Harmony
azid


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Posted : Apr 1, 2008 22:40
this party with total eclipse was at el Ajusco Mexico City!!!
Killa party!
Alternative control
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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 19:50
That was a time , no fancy music , no chakales , no muscules drugs , only psychedelic ones , good vibes , good ppl , good atmoshpere ! pfff.... Sound sorcery ,Maia , first compilations....wow...that was a time .

Never ever psytrance scene gonna go back to that time and to the roots we remember, unfortunatelly psytrance these days is very commercial and very money laundry scene , collecting unfortunatelly more and more of bad ppl ,narco dealers , and ppl who dont know what it is actually all about ,and why the psytrance was , is , and will be forever in our blood .





DAHAKA


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Posted : Apr 3, 2008 21:07
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On 2008-04-03 19:50, Alternative control wrote:
That was a time , no fancy music , no chakales , no muscules drugs , only psychedelic ones , good vibes , good ppl , good atmoshpere ! pfff.... Sound sorcery ,Maia , first compilations....wow...that was a time .

Never ever psytrance scene gonna go back to that time and to the roots we remember, unfortunatelly psytrance these days is very commercial and very money laundry scene , collecting unfortunatelly more and more of bad ppl ,narco dealers , and ppl who dont know what it is actually all about ,and why the psytrance was , is , and will be forever in our blood .









Yeah you right the scene is very very commercial in this days, for example: the ommix parties, they book the same artists just to get a lot of money, every year is the same story "eskimo" "gms" "infected mushroom" the same parties just with other names and yes we cant go back to the past but we can make a better future ¿dont you think dude? jejejeje

peace out


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alfreak
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Posted : Apr 4, 2008 05:54
yeah whats the whole point of looking back in the pass...maybe just to make things in the future a little bit like they were in the pass...

hey i like fancy music!!!           -PaRtYcLeS aLL oVeR tHE WoOdS

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lord_bhairava


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Posted : May 30, 2008 17:35
2001 a lot of people know the psychedelic music
2002 a lot of people go to raves
2003 a lot of people produce psychedelic trance
2004 a lot of people make raves
2005 ........
2006 people start to discover, progressive trance
2007 people prefers progressive trance to psychedelic full on
2008 people turns to minimal techno, electro music
2009 everithing is minimal techno
2010.......
2011.......
2012...another genre becomes so popular >P
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