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Have we lost our sense of purpose?
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 06:44
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Before I get started, I want to say emphasize what I am about to write is my own personal perspective, and probably has a lot to do with where I live (New York) and where I am in my life right now, and thus my perspective is likely to be distorted, or perhaps only true for NY. I am going to do my best to be objective and nonjudgmental in my statements, but I might not be able to live up to that as much as I’d like in order to make my point. So people, I ask you just take what I say as food for thought and let me know what you think of my perspective.
I feel like many of the problems I have heard about in the trance community lately have to do with a lack of a sense of purpose.
My feeling is that we have a lot of love and creativity and positive energy in our community, but I fear that if it isn’t put to use in a more focused way, what we have here will rot away, it’s original sweetness making the result that much more bitter.
I feel like we haven’t figured out how to put our energy to proper use, and thus that energy goes to waste, or sometimes even hurts us when it comes out as personal tensions.
These parties can be and sometimes are more than just parties. In my vision they could be the heart of a broader cultural and political movement that could transform the world. If we are just content to go to our parties and not use the feeling of unity we have at the parties to inspire us to change the world outside parties, then the spirit of the party is dead on arrival.
What do you all think?
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furthur
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 08:02
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On 2005-02-02 06:44, Psycosmo wrote:
If we are just content to go to our parties and not use the feeling of unity we have at the parties to inspire us to change the world outside parties, then the spirit of the party is dead on arrival.
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So then use this energy outside of parties. That has nothing to do with other people. It is completely in your hands. The only way you can change other people is by example.
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kabooki_cat
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 09:53
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many artist and label want $$$$$$ instead of @@@@@.
sad.
more people at partys and bad music.
try change the world but careful watch out the world can change you.
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OrBeat
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 10:35
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finally someone that understand.....
people here {israel} & all over the world just go to parties , thay dont want enythjing with the movment... with this culture .
thay dont belive that it is Power for the people ... there is so much of us... scatterd all over the place.
it is time to take this power & use it!
Jah bless
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Dragongurl
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 13:38
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Its called the Unconsious Collective people......we all know we are part of something, but there is no need to say it and discuss it. 
:: Life can be as bitter as dragon tears
But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 13:48
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On 2005-02-02 09:53, kabooki_cat wrote:
many artist and label want $$$$$$ instead of @@@@@.
sad.
more people at partys and bad music.
try change the world but careful watch out the world can change you.
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Yes absolutly right, we see this here in difeerent threats. Very bad :|
DJ Landmine also right, how do u want to change the world? U need to change urself and be an example for the other people that is all u can do.
Or i get king over the world, this would change all in apositive way 
And it is not a joke.
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 18:20
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| So then use this energy outside of parties. That has nothing to do with other people. It is completely in your hands. The only way you can change other people is by example. |
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I do. Psytrance has inspired me in my life outside of parties. I remember my first Goa parties and the 'mystical' feelings I felt there. Those feelings led me to my choice of topics of study college (shamanism and neuroscience). So it is not as if I dont use it as is.
But there is something special about collective, group energy. I feel like if party goers coordinated their activities in the outside world, even more could get done!
Each person has unique experiences, unique wisdom, unique abilities, and also unique failings. By working together our personal strengths and weaknesses can compliment eachother, and make all of us more successful in changing the world in our own, small, personal ways.
All Im saying is that if I know that Ive got the love of my fellow trancers supporting me up, I'll be able to stand by my trance values more strongly because feeling alone is dishearting, and feeling like a part of a community is heartening.
Its that simple.
Dj landmine:
[quote]Army vs People u want a world war 3....psycosmo very bad u should be banned from parties
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Calm down. I'm not a psy-facist, I wasnt suggesting kill anybody. You would think I had called for a global insurrection or something, the way you react, Landmine.
I didn't expect all reactions to my post to be positive but I didn't expect to get accused of wanting World War 3!!!
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Hey that's my job! |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 18:21
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On 2005-02-02 13:38, Dragongurl wrote:
Its called the Unconsious Collective people......we all know we are part of something, but there is no need to say it and discuss it.
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That's very flattering, Dragongurl, but I believe the term you're looking for is "Collective Unconscious"...  However that is where the name of the project came from.
I agree with the previous poster who said that it's in our own hands how we use the feelings the scene, parties and music gives us. Personally I try to let it inform almost everything I do (with varying degrees of success). If we learn something - whatever it is - we let ourselves down badly if we don't use that information in our daily lives. Like the album-title said, a party is for life, not just for Christmas. Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Surrender
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 18:34
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PsyCosmo,
i agree with you... your words and ofcourse many other things (like everything in life) is the reason why i have stopped organizing parties in New York... i feel that going out to a psytrance party has become like anything else to do on a weekend night instead of that special feeling that you speak of that use to exist. perhaps i wasnt a good enough organizer, maybe it was my job to provide that and "navigate" the crowd into if it was properly done... who knows.
a few things to consider is that specifically in new york, we are mainly restricted (even in the summer) to indoor events because of the unpredictable weather. i think half the vibe (if not all of it ) is lost there... i have pretty much detached myself from the party scene, i do not find any interest there... not as an organizer and not as a dancer. i am hopeful for the summer since there will be 2 or 3 good outdoor events worth checking out.
stay strong Psycosmo, from what i hear - it's not only new york - its global...
Dj Landmine, i dont understand your comment, maybe it was a joke? a play on words? i dont get it...
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 18:44
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On 2005-02-02 18:20, Psycosmo wrote:
I remember my first Goa parties and the 'mystical' feelings I felt there. Those feelings led me to my choice of topics of study college (shamanism and neuroscience).
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yesss 
for me it was very similar.
i also studied social work/ education with psychedelic culture/ mysticism/ epistemology (theory of cognition)/ consciousness etc. always in my mind and always referring to it.
i think we just need much more people in proper powerful professions (politicians, police, jurisdiction etc.) so that we can better spread our message and enforce it:
altruism, non-ego, pluralism, open-mindedness, tolerance etc.
being able to change the world (but not forget that the first to do is always to change ourselves and not let the ego take over) |
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 20:38
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| i agree with you... your words and ofcourse many other things (like everything in life) is the reason why i have stopped organizing parties in New York... i feel that going out to a psytrance party has become like anything else to do on a weekend night instead of that special feeling that you speak of that use to exist. perhaps i wasnt a good enough organizer, maybe it was my job to provide that and "navigate" the crowd into if it was properly done... who knows.
a few things to consider is that specifically in new york, we are mainly restricted (even in the summer) to indoor events because of the unpredictable weather. i think half the vibe (if not all of it ) is lost there... i have pretty much detached myself from the party scene, i do not find any interest there... not as an organizer and not as a dancer. i am hopeful for the summer since there will be 2 or 3 good outdoor events worth checking out.
stay strong Psycosmo, from what i hear - it's not only new york - its global...
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Thank you for the kind words, Surrender. I don't think you should blame yourself for not "navigating" for people... that is each individuals job (although maybe poeple could navigate together a lil more). I also dont think the situation on NY is as bad as you suggest... we still have lots of warm, beautiful people, our scene still beats the square world any day 
I only posted what I did because I value what we have and dont want to see it go to waste.
The weather may have something to do with it... but then again maybe if weather is enough to stop us from dancing outside we aren't as commited as I hoped. My vision of a reborn neo-Goa scene would involve hundreds of ecstatic young people dancing their assess of rain or shine, splashing through puddles with their foot-falls and gratefully accepting the mud and water splashed up in their faces. Dancing motivated by a pure love of Mother Nature in all her forms and Fiercness. That is a sight that I think would inspire people and give them hope in this sad time where inherant magic of living seems to be forgotten by all but a few.
@Deejayreedoo:
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. We need more trance people in positions of power so that we dont get marginalized, and can instead confront the powers that be on their own level.
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Surrender
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 21:30
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On 2005-02-02 20:38, Psycosmo wrote:
My vision of a reborn neo-Goa scene would involve hundreds of ecstatic young people dancing their assess of rain or shine, splashing through puddles with their foot-falls and gratefully accepting the mud and water splashed up in their faces. Dancing motivated by a pure love of Mother Nature in all her forms and Fiercness. That is a sight that I think would inspire people and give them hope in this sad time where inherant magic of living seems to be forgotten by all but a few.
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beautiful!
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 21:50
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indeed
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 21:58
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On 2005-02-02 20:38, Psycosmo wrote:
My vision of a reborn neo-Goa scene would involve hundreds of ecstatic young people dancing their assess of rain or shine, splashing through puddles with their foot-falls and gratefully accepting the mud and water splashed up in their faces. Dancing motivated by a pure love of Mother Nature in all her forms and Fiercness. That is a sight that I think would inspire people and give them hope in this sad time where inherant magic of living seems to be forgotten by all but a few.
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beautiful!
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Last outdoor I went November 2004 was exacly like this, hot morning with rain in the afternoon with a bright end of afternoon by the river. I had very different reasons for stop parting - feeling alone, expending a fortune and bad gossip was the main reasons. But the scene in my view was still over the moon. Now I only see people complaining here, shall someone open a new thread asking how parties has been going nowadays and what reasons are you still going... I mean I really think that there is still excellent parties around, and I think it is not better because I am not there (not wanting to be self-centered), only the fact that I remember myself contibuting a lot of smile and sensibility to it. Where I want to get with this is: I've got to the conclusion that things move on, with me or without me, but only an year ago when I was parting, I didn't came across so much complain as I come nowadays... I really miss the point where are all the complaints about. But I do think, that it is not easy to leave as it is not easy to see someone leaving parties. And in my point of view (again) at this moment is: the circle is always the same. What change is the people who come and go in different period od time..... |
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Feb 3, 2005 00:14
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long live psychedelic trance.as long as there are parties which are gathering people from all over the world everything is fine.c u in a major outdoor near u evrywhere.
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