faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 5, 2014 19:51:53
we've been exploring some "new" production methods and way of thinking lately, and when we tell our friends about it they indicate they don't really get what we mean. it is in strict terms "progressive" but the end result doesn't have a lot in common with the prog sound and vibe.
instead of working with a short loop and expanding it, we are starting with a really long loop to begin with - 128, 256 bars. each channel evolves within that loop, some can be as hooks and some can be with evolving scoring, but the idea is that the automations evolve and dynamically change each channel, almost all the channels have a ton of delay with massive feedback, and as more channels are introduced the interaction between them creates harmonizing and story. the channels pretty much all run at the same time together, with little interference in editing, for many minutes. there is little room for a huge bass or a lot of drums because the synth layers "steal" the spectrum. the snare and hats evolution and interaction provide the progression of the groove.
end result - almost a new subgenre - part goa, part prog, part something else. there is no instant gratification smash-the-dancefloor type of vibe with this, but it is very deep and mushroomy.... you get something that is both oldschool and simplistic, yet clever and refined, i would dare say "classy" and very musical, like waves of an ocean.
The Way Back
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smoker
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Posted : Apr 5, 2014 21:15
that's sounds amazing and really complected track
with all this automations and your own synth sound
which you build.
all your work is really deep and complected and hard work.
Melange5738
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Posted : Apr 5, 2014 23:35
This was the perspective I started out from, but I later abandoned the idea as the results became too blurry and unenjoyable. Not saying this to persuade you away from it but maybe the golden path is somewhere between. If you consider subtractive creation an art form aswell, I would consider removing beats, notes and bars to be as helpful as adding new sounds, and knowing what to remove and not can be as daunting as adding a new track.
nice approach. i sometimes do something similar with melodies or other elements going through to he whole track with some automation and going from leads to fx, but more from an oldschool goa perspective back from the time when trance was called so because it was actually trance inducing.
still it's not anywhere near the last track you show in the video. you certainly take it to the extreme, where no psy producer has gone before. i'm not yet decided if you're overdoing it, but what is certain is that contemporary psy needs more of that sort of vibe!
faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 6, 2014 21:32
eheheh word padmapani just trying at the moment to go even more extreme, of course if it doesn't come out interesting then we have done nothing, lets see.... on it!
256 bar loop from the very start of working on this:
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Posted : Apr 7, 2014 10:27
nice one dude
btw not the track the background (great tracks)
you lucky bastard i wish my wife understand psytrance music.
btw what this DAW Which you're using it looks like logic for windows?
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faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 7, 2014 11:49
the daw is logic 5 for windows yeah. the last windows version.
getting carried away here another one from what is worked on now, developing -->
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Posted : Apr 7, 2014 16:12
very very nice
I like the developing nature of the sounds, with the tweaking, it engages the listener with all the change taking place. You just need to be careful not to overload.
faxinadu
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Posted : Apr 7, 2014 16:58
just trying at the moment to go even more extreme, of course if it doesn't come out interesting then we have done nothing, lets see.... on it!
