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Rah
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 01:16
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i only think we must grade reviewers also. 
because most have bad taste. 
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Then how about you write your own reviews and do something else besides criticize ?
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 01:17
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On 2005-07-05 00:16, Rah wrote:
I am there with you man, different spices make life more interesting… and I enjoy your reviews personally.
I am glad we both agree spitting numbers is just not all that useful… but when you get into a numerical system it seems to me you should have some sort of mathematical or at least, a more concise system to specify what is a 10… what is 9. Is like you said yourself you like reviewing different things. I might agree with you on Kruger and Coyle, but I might hate Kindzadza. At which point in time If I am reading your reviews I might just be confused, because I thought we had the same taste, but then you show up with this Russian crazy full on and I’m just a little confused. BTW you did not specify what exactly a “10” is for you… you just gave me guidelines but no real values behind those numbers.
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What's a ten? With hundreds of reviews made, I only came up with two that earned the perfect mark: 12 Moons - Solid State and Double Dragon - Continuum. There are still many more to be reviewed of course - I think a large part of why I only had two tens out of hundreds is simply that I've been reviewing newer stuff for the most part, as I am already aware of where my favourites are in the old school. A lot more of those would earn a 10, perhaps. I am rather stringent with that mark, as one should be.
As for some consistency of style - well that's a matter of the review text. If I'm talking "housey" on one side and "blistering convulsion-inducing madness" on the other, the literary reader will have the goods to get an idea of where it's at for them.
If I'm actually hyping something up I'm usually going into detail about what specifically is good about it... and I usually, at the end of a review, pitch the recommendation to a particular audience ("only for fans of the style who have cash to burn" or "well recommended to all psytrance listeners" etc)...
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 01:18
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Well, aside from getting promos, which just isn't happening. Labels can't stand someone honest or sometimes lax in getting to a review evidently
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Rah
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 01:18
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On 2005-07-05 00:56, clown wrote:
well, as long as the number grade given is backed up by a detailed review, then it can be useful.. if someone just writes "wow, great album.. pure quality here.. 10/10" ... there isn't much credibility.. but when people like Profane write 900 words descibing the album in detail, then give a grade at the end, i think twice about listening to the samples if the grade is interesting.
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and that’s great man, if it helps you make an informed choice about the music, then I guess it does serve it's purpose... is just don't see what role numbers and numerical exactitude have to with it, but I guess that is also a personal choice 
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Rah
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 01:27
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On 2005-07-05 01:18, basilisk wrote:
Well, aside from getting promos, which just isn't happening. Labels can't stand someone honest or sometimes lax in getting to a review evidently
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i'm sorry but i didn't get that one 
what does it have to do with the review system we were talking about again?
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kabooki_cat
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 01:57
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On 2005-07-05 01:16, Rah wrote:
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i only think we must grade reviewers also.
because most have bad taste.
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Then how about you write your own reviews and do something else besides criticize ?
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maybe i will. but nobody send me promotional CDs. and nobody will like my review because i am honest, like Basilisk said.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 02:00
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I'm not very good at staying on topic - did you notice that?
So there were these squirrels battling it out in the trees outside of my window the other day and... oh yeah, when's Penta's new album coming out? 
Nah, see, I've had to actually email labels "well you just sent me some cut'n'paste full-on shite which is pretty much the only style for which I wouldn't even want to take a promo for review cuz I am certainly going to give it a bad one. But hey, I told you this already when I passed on my address!"
...and these squirrels, you see, were locked in an escalating war of attributing grades to psytrance releases with increasingly dissonance, ultimately resulting in the meltdown of our planet's core, leading the end of existence as we know it.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Rah
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 03:44
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On 2005-07-05 01:57, kabooki_cat wrote:
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On 2005-07-05 01:16, Rah wrote:
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i only think we must grade reviewers also.
because most have bad taste.
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Then how about you write your own reviews and do something else besides criticize ?
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maybe i will. but nobody send me promotional CDs. and nobody will like my review because i am honest, like Basilisk said.
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mate there is a difference between offering constructive criticism ans just trashing a release, because you don't like the music based on personal taste.
a good example of this case is here:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/63318/forum/9
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Rah
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 03:55
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On 2005-07-05 02:00, basilisk wrote:
I'm not very good at staying on topic - did you notice that?
So there were these squirrels battling it out in the trees outside of my window the other day and... oh yeah, when's Penta's new album coming out?
Nah, see, I've had to actually email labels "well you just sent me some cut'n'paste full-on shite which is pretty much the only style for which I wouldn't even want to take a promo for review cuz I am certainly going to give it a bad one. But hey, I told you this already when I passed on my address!"
...and these squirrels, you see, were locked in an escalating war of attributing grades to psytrance releases with increasingly dissonance, ultimately resulting in the meltdown of our planet's core, leading the end of existence as we know it.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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I love squirrels too they are my favorite animal. Sucks I don't live in a region where I see much of them. Anyway, if you think are you are the only who has emailed labels with those messages think again. The thing is I buy enough of the releases I review so I don’t feel I have to suck up to anybody, but simply express my thoughts. I am here to review good music, not inflate my ego my trashing music. And since I take the time to listen to samples and plan my purchases I am seldom disappointed with what I get. But, this has nothing to do with the topic in hand, which I believe I have answered already when I replied to clown.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 06:37
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S'all good, I'm pretty much the same way...
I have trashed releases in my reviews but I usually don't post those... V/A Propaganda really got the brunt end of my stick though, mainly because it is so frustrating to have an amazing track like Equivalent Equations nestled in with the dregs of full-on rubbish.
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Rah
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 07:03
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well i least you were objective about it
i respect your opinion and more often than not i find myself agreeing with your reviews... i have also heard you spin good vibes much respect. If i ever visit those frosty tundras where you reside ill be sure to check out what all the fuzz is about
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