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Gathering Review

kowens
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Posted : Sep 24, 2002 09:19
Well i just got back from the party and I had a great time out there in Gifu. I first want to thank Jonathon and Tonya from vision quest for putting in their energy and vibes to create a quality party were everyone had a blast.

The party was held this year at a diffrent venue from the previous gathering parties up in Nagano, and i think this location was actually better in a lot of way, including the main stage. Everything was well organized in my opinion and set up well. The only one small tiny criticism about the venue would be that there were no showers, but oh well shoganai.

The music was incredible, First off Exaile totaly rocked my world, I had not heard much of their music before and i was blown away when they played there set. Also Mr. Skazi did a wonderful job as usual getting everyone's legs moving and shaking. Actualy all the music there kicked ass, and i thought everyone's set was quite good, with Dino, Zorba, and Infected being expectional. The only two low spots for me were Mitsumoto and Joti, and the loss of younger brother

I meet a lot of cool israeli people there that were so interesting to talk with and learn there perspective on life and such,, so thank you to them as well , they sure know how to party hard, hilla, daniel, dan, mital,yogi, i hope to party with you all again in the near future. thanks VQ

kyle

[ This Message was edited by: kowens on 2002-09-24 09:26 ]
Kaatisu
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Posted : Sep 24, 2002 15:55
Nice review, Kyle. I was hoping to run into you - maybe next time.

I too had a blast, and it was definitely a peak experience in my lifetime. I was with a fabulous group of loved ones, and we had the oppurtunity to share some most surreal experiences in that most surreal setting. And the line-up was indeed terrific (but where were Younger Brother, Deedrah, and Dimitri DKn? - not exactly minor losses too the line-up). Hats off to Vision Quest for doing a good job again. I am grateful

However, I do have some constructive critisism for the organizing team. While they they did a good job (and I know it isn't easy), I believe they could have done better....
I don't know the numbers, but I'm sure VQ is disappointed with the turn out. There certainly weren't as many people there as I expected. Why were there fewer people? Perhaps they have finally priced people out. 13000 yen (about US$105) for a ticket at the gate is the most expensive I've seen yet. Too high! Put that on top of the already too high transportation costs in Japan (great setting, but not too convenient for most!) and an outrageaus 3000 yen (about US$25) for parking (!) and most people simply can't afford it.

There are a lot of parties these days, making competition stronger. While I think VQ is an excellent organizer in terms of the big things (top quality line-up, sound, and venue), I think people are going to choose their parties in terms of the total picture. They are going to ask, "Does this organizer care about me, the individual? Am I considered an important part of this party? Or does the organizer only care about the big-name import DJs?" One obvious measure of how much an organizer cares about the comfort of the little guys is how well they keep the toilets clean and accessable to the people. Vision Quest, why do you force people to use such disgusting facilities? And Kyle's right, showers (kept clean) would also show people you care about them. Also, why do most organizers let so much garbage lay around on the ground? Do they think it improves the vibe? At 2 of the 5 open-air parties I went to this summer, the dance floor was kept meticulously clean and it made a big difference in terms of vibe. Staff were continually picking up trash and encouraging the partiers to do the same (and placing garbage bins by the dance floor to help people keep things beautiful). I think these "small" aspects of a party are making an increasingly big difference to people as they choose the atmosphere they want to be in.

I make these suggestions not to be negative, but in hopes that these great parties will become even greater. Respect for Vision Quest!


[ This Message was edited by: Kaatisu on 2002-09-24 16:00 ]
HujaBoy
HujaBoy

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Posted : Sep 24, 2002 17:06
how many people were there?
kowens
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Posted : Sep 25, 2002 16:34
Hujaboy

Now bear in mind this is a total guess, I would say that there were at most 5,000 people at any one time, kurtis correct me if I am wrong. But if anything probably less than that. The last two years there were probably double that.

Kurtis, I was trying to find you as well, i asked at least 10 people if there name was kurtis, no worries though we will eventually meet. Also i was wondering how the UTAGE party was that you went to. peace

[ This Message was edited by: kowens on 2002-09-25 18:54 ]
kowens
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Posted : Sep 25, 2002 16:38
Oh and one more thing kurtis

thank you for saying the things you said above, regarding VQ finaly pricing out the people. People who attend these parties are generaly not rich, But going to this party cost more than the most expensive rock concert. I spent the equivalent of about 550 dollars there, and i had to save up from work for 3 months, that is ridiculus. and with the money they generate they could do a lot more to show there appreciation. But nevertheless it was a great party, really great. thanks for saying what you did kurtis
visionquest japan
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Posted : Oct 1, 2002 09:28
dear party people how are you doing/
I hope that every budy is recoverd from the event, we haven't.
the amount of people that we had this year is 8,000 people, less then last year but teh party was as good.
about the money story we know that is more then the normal but we try to give more then the expected.
we added this year more toilets and inside of them we have instold lighting and runing water, also we have cleaned them six times during the event.
we hope that you all rocked as we did teh party was great for us and we hope that it was the same for you.
for more info about the gathering 2002 please check the web site
www.visionquest-tokyo.com
from next week.
if you are looking for info in general about our partys please call teh office
81-3-5545-4127
peace visionquest
HIKARI
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Posted : Oct 2, 2002 05:45
VisionQuest Otukaresama!!
well one reason why i think there werent that many people is because the place is so damn far! If i had money I would of went but my friend spent over 10000yen(over 100US$) just to get to the place.
VisionQuest if you are to call more people you should have done it at a closer location.

Well this is a review I got from a friend. He says the party this year wasnt too good. According to him the crowd was filled with a lot of cyber trancers(main stream crowd). According to him, even though the tickect prices were up VQ could not afford to bring Dimitri, Deedrah and Younger brother. Bringing Big time artists costs too much money.
I think visionquest could not handle such a big budget. but nevertheless people who like the full on crazyness I am sure had a blast.
I will be waiting for Hujaboy!

MonasticSquid
MonasticSquid

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Posted : Oct 4, 2002 22:56
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On 2002-10-01 09:28, visionquest japan wrote:
..about the money story we know that is more then the normal but we try to give more then the expected.
we added this year more toilets and inside of them we have instold lighting and runing water, also we have cleaned them six times during the event.....

Actually VISION QUEST...... when paying for a ticket to go to an event (especially @ VisionQuest price)... I EXPECT toilets... I EXPECT them to be cleaned once a day and I most DEFINATLEY EXPECT 'running water' (In England it is the Law to supply FREE, running water parties and events..!)... this is BASIC REQUIREMENTS for ANY party that makes you PAY to go... indoors and outdoors.... If I go to a FREE outdoor party... I EXPECT to take my own water, and I EXPECT to shit in the bushes..!!

... do you really believe you are 'giving more than expected' by supplying these 'expected' and 'necesarry' things?......
..come on Vision Quest.....I think its time you started listening to your 'kyaku-sama'...
..please read the comments by Kaatisu, Hikari, Kowens... and take it onboard..!!
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kowens
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Posted : Oct 5, 2002 08:29
right on monastic squid that is exactly the same thoughts i was having thousands of other people too. when are we going to have a party that goes beyond the basic requirements adn doesnt cost and arm and a leg. i keep hoping ..
viranchi
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Posted : Oct 5, 2002 09:00
Wish i could hav been there to cathct the GATHERING heard it was a killer a friend of mine was there!!!!!!
Youll are lucky to see such big names in one party!!!!
boooom japan and visionquest!!!
Morgana Le Fay
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Posted : Oct 7, 2002 11:22
hello tancers
Party hard all the way!!! I had a great year and a great party!!! no complaints here...as for the points made, too far i agree but still worth the journey and the dj loss well that is their fuck up not the organizers and other then garbage, and toilets....I get that although i am much more inclined to pee behind a tree, What would you as a public like to see? it is all well and fine to complain about what was done wrong but how about some sudgestions as to what you would like to add to make it more then expected.....just a thought...
love and light
authentik


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Posted : Oct 7, 2002 20:59
hey guys i find fresh interview with Delta
but is on japan lenguage, so can I paste the text
to someone and to translate me.

10x


kowens
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Posted : Oct 9, 2002 15:57
Morgana,

I think the concearns that we all were addressing on here are all pretty much common sense to correct, i dont think it is necesarry to offer solutions or suggestions:

too expensive- try not making as much money off the people

no showers-use some of your profit to add some

garbage- clean it up

Japan is the one country were trance is very very profitable and that is what is bothering some people i think, it is ok to charge more than anywhere else but we expect better organization with that, thats all, peace
krakho


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Posted : Oct 10, 2002 03:48
the price of ticket cost more than the last year party?.... was this party more than last year party? no. so why more expensive? greedy organizer!
russ
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Posted : Oct 10, 2002 13:06
building showers is quite an undertaking and in my book it's not worth it. i've never seen any organizer build showers in Japan, and I don't think they should. it's simply not practical and not necessary. a trance party is an extreme experience, it's not a weekend at a fancy resort. the only time an organizer should build showers is for a real long party (like 4+ days) in a very hot place. otherwise you should just deal.
also tickets are expensive in japan because the cost of doing parties out here is UNBELIEVABLY expensive. an organizer can spend tens of thousands of dollars on transportation alone. my organization mindgames lost money at this year's summer party, as did Arcadia and Utage and TranceCafe and even Solstice i heard. the indoor scene can be very profitable i believe, but outdoors is a huge risk. i think VQ is probably the smartest when it comes to finances, and my guess is they did well if they got 8000 people, but most organizers lose LARGE sums of money on outdoor festivals, so be careful before assuming that organizers are getting rich.
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