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Funky and groovy term in trance

tokyoeye


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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 16:11
I find that the funky and groovy terms in trance are : paroxisms

Or disproportionate if u prefer....

As a bassite player, I've difficulty to venerate this style and effect so particular and resulting from this instrument on trance track......

For oportunists, make somme trance track with scratching and it 'll be : hip hop trance

Tokyoeye
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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 17:31
I would call it

Hip trance or

Trance hop            Signature
Miss Tick
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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 19:16
Well, tokyo, could you explain why exactly ? or you mean ?

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tokyoeye


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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 19:34
to eyb : correct !!

To miss tick : You know what is Groove and funk ?? Never I fell this "touch" so particulary in trance...

But if THE WOLRD TRANCE COMPANY decide to give the term groove with some tracks proggy and funcky with some tracks Morning "chépa koi".....why not....

When I was young, I listen a lot of groove and funcky music....and for me, I don't find this touch, vibe in trance music (Music speaking : musicalement parlant....sorry for this home translate)

If it's a Headache post, I can put my best joke in line.....I'm a groove man, I'm rolling with differents subjects......

A bon entendeur
K.T.E


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Posted : Aug 24, 2004 21:03
I agree (if I understood you correctly). I've always been amazed that people call proggy stuff groovy or funky. Nothing against progressive, I like a lot of prog stuff, but funky it ain't.

To me funky or groovy means that the music is loose and lively. Progressive is almost the opposite of that. It's usually very rigid, with a very steady beat and with quite fine changes that carry the track forward. The terms have really suffered an inflation here. There are very few artists in psytrance that I'd call funky (Haltya would be one of them).
Miss Tick
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 10:17
In first thanx tokyo for your answer, and i'm not totally agree with you ....

Listen ! When i was young i listen lot of Hip Hop, and for sure before, lot of funky music like ZApp n roger, shalamar and the rest ... Honesrty, when i heard lot of track : in morning tunes, or proggy stuff, I fell a lot of groove inside .. and if you want some example for me, what the groove (wait, it's for me, is it my feeling ... )

Buzz : Breath
Triptych : really lot of his track are totally groove in bassline
Ryann Halifax : Since DRum Channel until Fuck me rich
Frogacult :
Tetraktys too ! in some track
Motion
Solead : Daddy Kool

etc etc .... well, i don't want to tell you : tokyo or KTE "Im right and you no !!! nia nia nia" .. i just want to show you, that this kind of thing are totally personnal feeling           www.spintwist.de
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Kaz
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 11:18
First of all, let's make the distinction between "groove" which can be mechanical, simple and droning (like in Shiva Chandra, Spirallianz, older XV Kilist material).

Funk on the other hand is more well defined, looser and more flowing (necessarily not a rigid machine groove) - so fewer acts use it. But saying it doesn't exist is ignoring Loopus in Fabula, Rip Van Hippy, Haltya and a lot more.

If your definition of 'funk' is limited to hip hop, that's a totally different problem. If you want to listen to some really funky stuff, might as well stick with James Brown and drop the psytrance.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Dragongurl
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 11:44
I think this style of trance has to be my favorite at the moment

Those groovy basslines, wicked melodies that soar all over the place and those strange samples that they put in to make it all the more funky

I agree with your description there K.T.E......its all loose yet lively. But I still love my proggie stuff, its all what u feel like listening to at any given moment.

I would just call it groovetrance!!           :: Life can be as bitter as dragon tears
But whether dragon tears are bitter or sweet
depends entirely on how each man perceives the taste ::
Acidhive
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 12:47
Yeah, let's make up all kinds of different genres, it'll be nice for the artists too. One day you're happily making progressive trance, the next everyone drops you in the groove trance category and your next song sounds a little bit different and somebody stands up and says: this is electro trance!! Another song sounds darker and someone shouts: This... this is horror trance! And here you were as an artist, thinking you were making a progressive cd with a lot of diversity...

Nowadays I see all these people here that want subgenres for everything. If someone farts, they'd want a subgenre...

I mean, seriously, come on, we already have a few subgenres in psytrance.. let's keep it that way!!!           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
Satyr
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 14:03
funki .. . hmmmm


does anybody know where the term "FUNK"
finds its origin?

how did it came to see the light?



... but besides that: what's in a name??

i played some Psychotic Micro for someone
who wanted to hear some hard stuff ..
.. and he called it progressive (...)


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Satyr
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 14:04
Quote:
Nowadays I see all these people here that want subgenres for everything. If someone farts, they'd want a subgenre...



or as they 'en france' :

"le Trance qui pete" = "the Trance that farts"           
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tokyoeye


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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 16:10
To Miss tick : Nanani nanana.......



Miss Tick
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 17:28
to tokyo : nio nio niooooooooo

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inkubator
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Posted : Aug 25, 2004 17:57
groove is not what u play, groove is what you do NOT play.

this definition makes clear that almost every kind of music can be groovy. why only almost? up to a certain bpm one can feel the groove, everything that exceeds this number of beats per minute kills this feeling cauz of the missing gaps.

about funk. i love funk.           just gimme more of the same. its just a test!
psy^soldier
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Posted : Aug 27, 2004 12:53
loopus in fabula-funk trance
alot of jazz infulances
mainly there 1st albom
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