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gill
Melorix

Started Topics : 18
Posts : 628
Posted : Apr 29, 2006 02:58

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On 2006-03-30 15:20, New Era Scientist wrote:
isnt it better if you ask the Bufo guys if you can have a .wav? im sure they are willing to fix it for you.

dont play mp3s out, aim for quality...
thats my opinion....
cheeers

On a big system huh ...
Please tell me what you hear.
What and where is the diffrence?
Don't tell you just hear it.
I want to know exactly.
Just out of curiosity

Greetings ... and have a pleasant evening.
Gill (Melorix)

(ontopic:)
(Weird music fella's

)
(But that's what's psy standing for right

)

http://trishula-records.com/artists-pages/melorix.html

moses
Moses / Loopiter / Bufo

Started Topics : 25
Posts : 239
Posted : May 1, 2006 13:08

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On a big system huh ...
Please tell me what you hear.
What and where is the diffrence?
Don't tell you just hear it.
I want to know exactly.
Just out of curiosity

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I'd say "'Aim for quality" too, but i also think it's pretty save to play 320kbps on the big systems, just be sure there's no digital "blips & cracks" before you play it!

Cheers Moses

http://soundcloud.com/moses-muggi-dane

Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics : 60
Posts : 3709
Posted : May 1, 2006 16:37

Gill, why dont you ask your self instead

The difference i hear is a slight decrease in clarity, and its not huge, but its there...
though 320kBit/s is better than 192kBit/s cause the difference is more noticeable with 192kBit/s compared to 24bit 44100hz wav, i have also made comparison against 192kBit/s and 16bit 44100hz wav and notice difference in clarity aswell...

really its nothing to argue about, i dont see how my opinion would change anything... for me you can play 128 mp3s at parties if you want...
i do my thing and you do your thing and we are all happy!

just listen for your self, play at low volume and play the same sequence from both files... you have to listen very careful.......
now raise the volume and do the same test, than lower the volume again...
then cut the bass and listen only to the treble and do the same test..

Do you hear a difference in clarity?

the better listening system and environement you have the easier it is to hear the difference...
but of course you should be able to hear it on any system... if you listen careful.

though when we listen to music we dont listen for
this, we listen to the music, it could be a recording from the 50ies or whatever... its the music that matters most... the quality is second, at least for me, if there is not some evil distortion or other annoying artifacts... which can get by if the track is really good!

im merley saying that there is a difference, and of course there is a difference, i mean its sometimes a 1/12 compression, but consider that kind of compression its a great format and a very smart algorithm...

"formal and informal listening tests have shown that mp3 at the 192-256 kbps range provide encoded results undistinguishable from the original materials in most of the cases."

In most of the cases, and i really dont know how these tests has been preformed, also im sure that i could make the wrong decision about mp3 and wav..

i never did a real blind test, which would be very interesting.... though it also depends on how manytimes you get to compare, cause i think to some extent you have to become acclimatized with the sounds...

though i do believe that i can tell a 192kBit/s mp3 from a 16bit 44100hz wav, but i also believe it has to do with the recording, and how much information is has.... the more info it holds the easier to tell mp3 from wav....

but thats just what i think...

gill
Melorix

Started Topics : 18
Posts : 628
Posted : May 1, 2006 16:44

Yea I think I can do it too between a mp3 > 192 kbps and the wav ...
But between a 320 kbps mp3 and a wav?
I hear it so often that people hear the diffrence between those, is it bullshit what they say? Because a few of them don't even produce music ...
(Perhaps we should make a new thread about it

)
I would like to discuss this further till it's all clear for everyone

Greetings,
Gill (Melorix)

http://trishula-records.com/artists-pages/melorix.html

Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics : 60
Posts : 3709
Posted : May 1, 2006 17:05

gill - i dont think we ever get this subject clear, as its a very subjective subject

and lots of parameters thats involved...

interesting would be to do this comparisons in different genres.... if there is some music that makes it easier to tell difference...

maybe even better, record one instrument, and do the comparison....

yes its interesting, but there is so many terms and technical stuff that i dont have a clue about, which makes my opinion less valuable...

cheers!