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Formula, Formula and just a bit too much Formula

Rex Trueform


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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 13:08
This might not be the best topic of conversation but Hell I think it`s needing discussion.

What do you folks think of the current situation arising in the South African Scene;
too many Cape Town Artists all making a similar sound.

I just feel that the ideas and originality have become very stale.
Every release I hear at the moment and not just from South Africa seems to have a similar style.
Too many leads and not enough clever psychedelia.

It seems as though the formula has become the same through-out.
What ever happened to original music.
Listen to a cd and wow it actually sounds like something new.

Now I`m not pointing any fingers but I`d like to mention a few that have stood-out.

Frozen Ghost and zion linguist.........

They sound soo similar I don`t bother playing any of there music.
Every track is just uniform and filled with leads.
Almost boring if you`re after something more psychedelic.

Like I said, it`s an obervation not intended as any form of insult.
I think the local guys just stand head above the rest from a production stand-point.

Lets return to original outdoor music like it used to be.


Rex Trueform


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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 13:20
Just an afterthought.

I track that really stood-out to me this year as something original and exceptional was off
3D Vision - Hardfloor

Absolum - Astral body surfing v2

The track is just oozing psychedelia.
He has a perfect balance of leads and psy.

Zion Llinguist - MMD Rec.
Zion Linguist

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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 14:00
Hey man

I'm really sorry .. but cant plz everyone .. if u don't like it .. dont listen to it

PEACE !           http://www.myspace.com/zionlinguist
daksinamurti
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 14:27
mmh i cant get enough of south african music ... i do see lots of differences from artist to artist ...           www.sangomarecords.com
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Braindrop
Braindrop

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Posted : Jan 18, 2008 16:54
Hi. a similar topic was raised in the Trance section sometime back. However, id like to share a few things.

S.A psytrance has been prolly my biggest influence in making psytrance. It exploded into the scene post 2002 and shocked the entire world coz they never heard anything like it before and it was so powerful and uplifting. Over the years the sound became more popular and powerful and S.A became one of the best party places in the psyscene.

However, Rex does have a point. In the past year or 2 so... the sounds have become very saturated.. meaning same ideas... same patterns... the same saw leads... bitcrushers etc tc...and everybody seems to be doin the same stuff... i agree it defines the S.A sound. But Imo, it has gone from psychedelic... to wat i wld say more techy. I do not like to take names here.. coz at the end of the day its ones taste and one wld argue or say it as evolution. I did buy a cd of a label... which mentioned as one of the artist style as hard tech. Which to me was a lil strange and off the wall as to how u cld relate tht to psy.

I do not one bit doubt the production as it is top notch and intelligent. But yes, it has become less psychedelic. Do not take it as an offence, but as constructive critisicm and an obversation. We all still love S.A psytrance and i wld love to experience one of ur partys some day!

BOOM!
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Glitch_CapeTown
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Posted : Jan 19, 2008 10:59
LOL
i think theres a huge dif between zion ling and frozen ghost, its all about opinion mate.
Personally i feel u didnt listen well enough, because every time i listen to FG's music i hear sumthing new....
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Rex Trueform


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 09:55
I`m not trying to offend anyone as I said.

Zion Linguist - respect for your music for what it is.
Keep on banging the tunes.

Glitch - you don`t know me.

I just voiced my opinion.

If you guys were serious about your music you`d take constructive critism and work with it.

Fans shouldn`t defend the artists.

It`s strange though, I like hard-pounding psychedelic music.

I haven`t heard much of this in sometime.

I used to be a strictly SA dj.
I always gave my respect and time to SA producers.
And still do.

Atleast we haven`t become like Isrel and every release has some kind of cheesy vocal track.

I`ll admit I`m opinionated.
I`ve been in the scene for long enough to have an opinion.

Hell you can`t please everyone.

Having a healthy debate will only help to improve the current situation.
Take some input and work with it.

Use it, don`t use it.

Rex Trueform


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 10:41
It`s strange how no-one has anything to say against the artists.
It`s not negative, just constructive.

That`s how we improve ourselves.
Rex Trueform


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 10:59
Does no-one want to discuss this??

Are we that proud that we aren`t willing to dicuss our faults?
Rubix Qube


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 11:42
Interesting ...

So you think some SA artists are sounding a little too similar? Whats the harm in that?
Rubix Qube


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 11:50
We might lose some ground in terms of diversity in trance, but the way I see it is if you work at one thing constantly, you perfect it.
slug
Slug

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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 11:54
I agree that a lot of the music is less psychedelic than it used to be ... my music included ... but thats not necessarily bad ... not everyone wants to make strictly psychedelic stuff all of the time, people grow and change ...

Also, most people are influenced by so much other types of music - they want to express that in their tunes (or hear it on the dancefloor).

So basically I think this genre (trance/psytrance whatever u call it) has a lot to offer to people who are not all about LSD and total craziness.

But I do agree we should avoid our tracks just sounding like too much of the same old thing over and over. This is difficult ... but to be innovative is a good goal .. keep it fresh!

and on that topic ... I really liked some of things I heard from Rubix Qube lately - quite different from normal MMD sounds

Rex Trueform


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 12:05
Slug - What you say is true, yes.
I`m not saying make it manic and psychedelic.

I`m saying make it clever and psychedelic.
Forget music for chemicals.

Maybe that`s my issue.
The music is just sounding too manic and crystalised.

I miss music made with mind expansion and psychedelic travelling in mind.

But I think I`m going too deep into this.

Rubix - there's nothing wrong with diversity.
Personally I feel as I said above, close proximity of producers has created a far too similar sound.
Bring back the flavour.

Slug - you know I`ve been saying this for sometime now.

Who am I?

Nobody











slug
Slug

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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 12:16
rex - you must be someone i know then ... send a pm
Rubix Qube


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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 12:32
Haha no it's all good. Thats the thing with music, it's very subjective and everyone has contrasting opinions about what makes it good or bad.
I really don't have an opinion here because there are so many arguments for and against it..

But you do have a valid point. Artists do share sounds and patches and reference off each others music ... but it's a "lets help my fellow artist" approach as apposed to a "let's all sound the same" approach. But the result is sometimes the same ..

Zion Linguist has been around for ages, and I've listened to his tunes for a few years now. Same with Frozen. They are distinctly different to my ears, but thats probably because I listen to them so much hehe

Peace and respect!
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