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Final Scratch – Is it really an evolution?
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Candy
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 13:46
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Yesterday I found out of such invention called “Final Scratch”.
It’s a tool (I don’t really know how to describe it) where you can link your computer to it and link 2 blank records to it and ply music from your computer straight on your blank records and it will turn as if you’re playing your music from your records..
I also found out that now there’s a “Final Scratch” also for c.ds. Same thing like for the records, you attach your computer to it, attach 2 blank c.ds and you play your music “straight from the cds”.
So I ask you if this is really evolution? Or is this going to cause the mp3 mafia to become even bigger. Thanks to this invention, now you don’t need to buy c.ds / records, no need to rip it even. Just download it from the net and that’s it.
I believe that this invention will become one of the major factors of labels and record/cd shops closing down.
What is even more puzzling, guess who invented this? Plastikman. It’s shooting themselves in the leg.
Would like to hear your thoughts.
  Majority is never right!
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lurk
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 17:33
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Plastikman did not invent this, some dutch dude did (a friend of a friend), and he's doing very well for himself.
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omniholic
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 19:40
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Well since i personally think that in the near future a lot of the music will be sold digitally this is a logical thing to happen, and it really IS an evolution...and no, Richie Hawtin (Plasticman) did not invent it, 2 Dutch geeks did at a computer convention afterparty when they wondered why dj`s still use old vinyl records...Richie and John Aquaviva beta tested the unit for a long time before the release, and helped developing it.
I tested it at a demo Aquaviva held at the Redbull Music Academy in London last spring, and its absolutely great!
Some info can be found at:
www.finalscratch.com |
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Lucas Aly
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 19:45
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RaverGirl, i have a friend here who has the Final Scratch, he's a member of the Forum, i will send him the thread, he'll probably answer it to you better... just wait...
we are one. |
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Anak
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 19:48
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omniholic
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 20:02
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Phew, Anakoluth;)
Final Scratch is NOT a sampling unit at all, you can sample stuff with other devices and just control the samples with Final Scratch.To put it simply:
With Final Scratch you can control any audio file on your hard drive the way that you would control a vinyl record.Get it?
So, you can have tracks or loops, whatever you want, and control them with the vinyl-like discs, and with your basic turntables and a mixer. |
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Anak
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 20:14
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omniholic
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 20:30
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Oh man 
Ive used the unit myself!
What it does is:
Controls files on your hard drive by a set of turntables and a mixer connected to a Final Scratch unit.
AND i already posted the link a few posts before, its up there...
www.finalscratch.com
Just click the link "What is Final Scratch" there and maybe you will get the picture  |
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Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 21:13
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Well, from the "scratch" this product, Final Scratch has been quite revolutionary, and I think sets a fresh technical approach to the djing trade. Much less for its present implementation than for its concept.
And such concept is: Keep digital DIGITAL. It is my opinion that, in the digital environment, "old" media that was invented for the analogue world, such as CDs & vinyl records are a burden that one has to put on with.
It really doesn´t matter the media of your choice, be it a tape, cd or vinyl: if it "depends" on the good behavior of the external environment to keep its acuracy, then the content of such media and the actual perfomance will also depend on the environment to be correctly played as the original artist intended it to be.
Usually, once the media is damaged, or even lost, so is its content. With Final Scratch, you can accurately rip your media tapes, cds, vinyls, transport it into your hd, and store your original media safely back at home, and take your computer with you to perform your gig.
In the case your computer fails, get stolen, or the Final Scratch media does, your music library is still with you, retaining its full quality. You´ll just have to rip it again, and there you´re back on the road again.
I own two Final Scratch assemblies for almost a year now, and I have been using them on several outdoor parties and indoor clubs, and the only thing I had to replace so far were a couple of FS time code vinyls; (In my case, a pair of vinyls lasts an average of 4 months).
What you do with FS is: You get your source of music (whatever it is) rip it into an aif, mp3 or wav file, store it into your laptop hd. Then you connect your computer into the FS external interface (the ScratchAmp, which, by the way, has high quality D/A converters, far superior than those found in low-end cdj players).
This interface is then conected onto ANY pickup or cdj assembly. Then you connect this interface to a couple of chanels in your mixer, and that´s it.
Put you FS vinyls on the turntables or the FS cds on the cdjs, "map" the first tune from your set into deck A and the second on deck B, and start playing AS YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DOING. All the rest, beat-matching, mixing, etc, remains exactly the same.
Final Scratch IS NOT a sampling device, although it may be easily used to play any desired sample, on-the-fly, to add an effect to a tune. It really doesn´t matter what type of music you´re playing, once you get used to it and to its idiossincracies, it is a powerfull, realiable, practical and extremely useful tool.
As for saying it helps music piracy. Nothing could be further out from reality. FS is a NEW type of player. FS is as much an instrument which facilitates piracy as a cdj is. There´s absolutely no difference whatsoever.
PS: The audio signal comes directly out from the COMPUTER and not from the cdjs or pickups. |
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Anak
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Posted : Aug 6, 2003 22:56
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hafon
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Posted : Aug 7, 2003 00:24
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is attacking the mp3 mafia the only thing you can do?¿
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PsyFire
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Posted : Aug 7, 2003 09:30
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Call me old fashioned but what's wrong with using cdj's? This record scratching stuff sounds interesting but i still don't get what all the hype is about. Someone also told me that it needs to run with LINUX OS. I don't know if this is true but if it is that already too much of a headache.
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kilokif
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Posted : Aug 7, 2003 10:06
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well i know the final scratch (because one of my friend workx for eclerc)since the begining and i tryed it once 2 years ago i think and it's very good , it will probably be used by lots of people ver soon and it's not that expensive |
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omniholic
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Posted : Aug 7, 2003 13:24
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Anakoluth:
Richie DID use Final Scratch for DE9-Closer to the edit, he sampled tracks, cut them in pieces and used Final Scratch to mix the sample loops from his hard drive.
PsyFire:
WEll, there are advantages compared to CD`s.Its all digital, so you cant harm your records on a gig, which sometimes happens for us all...you can make edits and if youre a composer yourself you can remake a track endlessly and play it from the same laptop you made it on without ever having to burn it on a CD...all of us that have many versions of tracks from artists to play know how many CD`s go to waste when you burn all the new versions all the time...its also a lot easier to carry a laptop with a 100 gigabyte hard disk full of music than the amount of records that would take!
Its very practical to choose the next track to play when you can arrange all your music into folders and just open the next track from there, and you dont have to go through all of your CD`s thinking "hell, on WHAT CD did i have this track!" |
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