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Fans bitching about artist going comercial?
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 2, 2006 05:03
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On 2006-07-25 15:55, Nathan wrote:
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On 2006-07-25 13:18, devillicharsi wrote:
artists make music.. ppl listen to music!!!
those who can't appreciate.. criticize/comment negetive!!!
those who have too much time.. sit and write on isra!!!
those who want to write but can't call those who write nerds!!!
ppl get bored with one style and when artists change they say they're getting commercial!!!
i have too much time so i notice everything!!!
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Fire back:
Ppl without taste who accept every single sound that artist make. Ppl who has no principals or character – love everything.
Ppl who think that artists are a supreme entitys and they can't be wrong and no one can tell them that making money while taking music as a hostage is not an art.
Ppl that do not realize that for many other ppl Trance is a shelter out of simple an conventional lollypop music.
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Yes and taste falls from any tree. Good taste takes years to cultivate. And it is something very personal, as well as making music. We all had shitty taste and we bought, played and composed, since that is what we were exposed and disregarded what we did not understand @ the time.
And it is key to encourage, not to discourage. Because ultimatelly it is us who decide what rocks and what not. And it is our love for music which helps cultivate taste and therefore the muse which inspires us to make music which inspire others. If you think you can do better, just do it and shut up. Don't wait until they serve it to you in a silver platter for easy self gratification.
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Maska
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Posted : Aug 3, 2006 21:03
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But for some people, getting it (awesone tunage) handed to them on a platter is what it's all about....some compose, dj, etc....others just want to listen and enjoy the music.
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Aug 4, 2006 07:47
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Yes, the difference is the listener has a choice of whom or what to listen to. If he/she complains, it just means they are not choosing right for themselves. And I just do not understand is why they blame others who are choosing what they love to do. Sometimes listeners have to work to bring those who, or to buy/get what they want to listen to... And that is why the silver platter came into the picture, because some prefer to complain (Cry) until they are spoon-fed. |
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piXan
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Posted : Aug 6, 2006 20:02
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i ve seen these phenomena with many artists from many styles, but mainly fullon, that after making a debut album thats hard, sometimes dark and gennerally more aggresive, when doing the second album they keep the same underlying groove but with a lot more "morning" elements. i dont say this good neither bad its jsut something ive seen happen many times and i wonder why this happens. my theory is that as getting more gigs, they do it to be able to play on a more "headliner" hour, with a bit more warmth and with chicks less clothes. well who doesnt like that? ahh i feel like a beer! cheers
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Freeflow
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Posted : Aug 8, 2006 03:23
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the journey of a artist!
you will notice if album after album is sounding like someone is trying to reinvent their first hit track..or others hit tracks
some artists thinks that they have to keep it in the same "line" this is me, this is what people expect from me... if i dont do it they will not buy my albums... why be afraid.
the best is to stay true to your self no matter what you do... if you want to make one kind of music and you never will get feedup with it, then do it... if you want to try new stuff and evolve, do it... it wont matter... if you want excitment you cant live a linear life...
i would never in my life only make psytrance, i would be so boerd with the shit that i would kill my self..... music is music, do it all.. dont let a fanbase or a record company steer your life... thats suicide for the soul!!
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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Aug 8, 2006 13:07
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Commercialism for me (for the psy-trance scene) means when somoene who produced something experimental and innovative suddenly falls into full on with only purpose to make money,get more bookings,be popular...From the other side I don't blame any artist who was producing psy-trance and suddenly started to produce other kinds of music even with side project because it's personal evolution for him,more mature ways etc...So I am getting nervous when I see attitudes like "Ahh they produce electro,they went commercial,they sucks!!" Respect to those who don't give a shit about the market and they produce everything they want!! 
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Madpup
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Posted : Aug 8, 2006 13:44
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I know I am touching another topic that has been done to death, but considering that a vast majority of the people who winge about artists selling out are the ones that actually downloaded the album via mp3. How many copies of Classical Mushroom were sold and how many people actually heard the album?
I do not like recent Infected creations, but i do not blame them for wanting to set up a good life for themselves. Keeping on making music with soul and passion can be a thankless task and I do not surprise that some musicians chose to give up. But it makes me respect those who do not go 'commercial' even more.....e.g. Simon Posford.
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l337
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Posted : Aug 9, 2006 14:12
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On 2006-08-08 13:44, Madpup wrote:
me respect those who do not go 'commercial' even more.....e.g. Simon Posford.
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HAHAHAHA
Simon Posford is the most commercial of them all....just more underhand...
Shpongle is the biggest selling "psy" act in the world....(correct me if i am wrong)
thats pretty commercial....however the music isnt that commercial, except the lastest offering which sucks imho
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piXan
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 09:51
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On 2006-08-09 14:12, l337 wrote:
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On 2006-08-08 13:44, Madpup wrote:
me respect those who do not go 'commercial' even more.....e.g. Simon Posford.
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HAHAHAHA
Simon Posford is the most commercial of them all....just more underhand...
Shpongle is the biggest selling "psy" act in the world....(correct me if i am wrong)
thats pretty commercial....however the music isnt that commercial, except the lastest offering which sucks imho
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shpongle isnt psy for starters, nad the fact its popular doesnt make it commercial. im pretty sure infected albums have sold a lot more than shpongle and Hallucinogen toguether. Simon Posford is a good example on how to keep the machine rolling without selling ur soul. the other side of this is the chemical crew bullshit, latest hommega and IM of course. sure they have to make a living, but im not buying any of these cds or go to a party with artists like this.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 13:44
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its not wrong too make money from music, as long as the music dont suffer.
it takes alot of skill to make long lasting tracks that people really feel that they want to buy...
though thats also subjective.. hehe, we are all different.
for example i dont like shpongle, maybe some tracks, but not enough to by a album.. and the only infected album i could see my self byuing is classical mushroom and converting vegitarians,
and only one GMS album - No rules, and maybe their Zorba album
so even if they release 100 albums maybe they only make one good album...
though their might be alot of other people that buy thier other albums....
let good music speak to you and all is fine..
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Kane
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Posted : Sep 23, 2006 07:46
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The artist "goes" commercial when they start DJing for Pepsi... |
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MॐZC4L1†0
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Posted : Sep 23, 2006 10:27
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Take a look at recent electrypnose`s work... he is producing various styles, and he is great at all of them. But he is not falling into commercial shit at all, he really knows how 2 do it, as psytones said ( i think it was psytones lol) ints not what you do, but how you do it ... Very true masta
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Magox
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Posted : Sep 29, 2006 15:59
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i think new music "ROCKS"..........as well as older music.....
i think it is great that more and more people are opening up their "creative" side of themselves.........people who never thought that they could or would produce any sort of music........now with so many "wickid" music programs now.......and the inspiration of "killer" psychodelic......their are more people now than ever......."Creating" music through inspirations.......
for those who complain.....
mmm....
i dont know.....
try smiling.....
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Magox
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Posted : Sep 29, 2006 16:03
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On 2006-08-09 14:12, l337 wrote:
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On 2006-08-08 13:44, Madpup wrote:
me respect those who do not go 'commercial' even more.....e.g. Simon Posford.
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HAHAHAHA
Simon Posford is the most commercial of them all....just more underhand...
Shpongle is the biggest selling "psy" act in the world....(correct me if i am wrong)
thats pretty commercial....however the music isnt that commercial, except the lastest offering which sucks imho
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Simon Posford "ROCKS"
his music is not my favorite style.....
hallucinogen music for me was nice.....
and his sphongle project is good as well...
but seeing him play live......this is where you really appreciate his talent...
IMO
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gaspard
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Posted : Sep 29, 2006 16:42
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On 2006-09-23 10:27, MॐZC4L1†0 wrote:
Take a look at recent electrypnose`s work... he is producing various styles, and he is great at all of them. But he is not falling into commercial shit at all, he really knows how 2 do it, as psytones said ( i think it was psytones lol) ints not what you do, but how you do it ... Very true masta
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true! i think it also comes down to the personality of the artist. in this case electrypnose is a very humble and accessible person. in other cases egos become oversized as soon as there is some recognition of the scene.
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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